Berekley, CA proposes having civilians do traffic enforcement

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The fire department...

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Should we get into the CVSA? According to one of those, I'm a member of an anti-government group...

Truth verification tests are good interrogation tools, but their reliability as stand-alone tests is questionable at best.

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So, let me tell you what has been a particularly hot topic in LE in my area in the last several years...human trafficking. Also know that most prostitutes are not in their "profession" voluntarily. Now, with those two facts in mind, consider whether or not a department might find your participation...

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As far as admin is concerned, stats make the world go 'round...even if nobody does anything with them.

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“An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.”
― Winston S. Churchill

Churchill knew something about appeasers...his predecessor tried to appease Adolf Hitler.

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So, I've seen one video of this so far. It was of a black-clad rioter in quasi-swat apparel being arrested by a group of camo-clad Feds in an unmarked minivan. As she is being arrested, her friends are demanding the officers' identification and making statements like "use your words" (as if...

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It's a brave new world. You don't think that the politicos will let a little thing like the law stop them from completing their grand social experiment, do you?...

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I was thinking of the equivalent of red light cameras as well. But, instead of just mailing the cite to the RO, it's likely that they'd do what many states do with red light citations: give it to a LEO and then US send the cite since we can sign charges....

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What indication is there that their rights were violated? Just because a firearm was seized in the course of a criminal investigation does not mean that their 2nd Amendment rights are being violated.

Let's not forget the 4th Amendment..."The right of the people to be secure in their...

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I'm honestly not sure they'll learn. The politicians and "activists" who are making these proposals are unlikely to ever be directly effected by them...most of them are elitists far removed from the realities of the world. They aren't living in the neighborhoods or communities that will be...

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https://www.policeone.com/traffic-pa...fd86c-42314431

So, a city council member and the mayor of Berkeley, CA think it's a good idea to "separate" traffic enforcement from LE and have civilian do the traffic enforcement. [facepalm]

THIS is what happens when you let...

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If you're a LEO as your profile says, I'd recommend that you find some local legal resources, be it more experienced officers on your department or your local prosecutor. "Plain smell" rulings vary by state and locality, as does the interpretation of the motor vehicle exception depending on...