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  • Ukraine says Malaysian airliner shot down, 295 dead

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...0FM1TU20140717

    (Reuters) - A Malaysian airliner was shot down over eastern Ukraine by militants on Thursday, killing all 295 people aboard, a Ukrainian interior ministry official was quoted as saying by Interfax-Ukraine news agency.

    The aircraft, which other sources said was a Boeing 777 flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur, came down near the city of Donetsk, stronghold of pro-Russian rebels, Anton Gerashchenko said, adding that it was hit by a ground-to-air missile.

    There was no further confirmation of the report, although Ukrainian officials said local residents had found wreckage.

    Malaysia Airlines said on its Twitter feed it had lost contact with its flight MH-17 from Amsterdam. "The last known position was over Ukrainian airspace," it said.

    Gerashchenko was quoted as saying: "A civilian airliner travelling from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur has just been shot down by a Buk anti-aircraft system ... 280 passengers and 15 crew have been killed."

    Interfax-Ukraine quoted another Ukrainian official as saying the plane disappeared from radar when it was flying at 10,000 metres (33,000 feet), a typical cruising altitude for airliners.

    It came down at Torez, near Shakhtersk, some 40 km (25 miles) from the Russia border. The area has been the scene of fighting between Ukrainian troops and pro-Russian rebels.

    Ukraine has accused Russia of taking an active role in the four-month-old conflict in recent days and accused it earlier on Thursday of shooting down a Ukrainian fighter jet - an accusation that Moscow denied.
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    Heck, I thought the Russians only liked shooting down Koreans (flights 007 & 902)......now Malaysians hmm, I guess they're prejudice against ALL Asians.
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    • #3
      The reports coming across are that the Ukrainian pro-Russian rebels mistook it for a Ukrainian cargo plane. They have shot down a couple other Ukrainian military aircraft as of late.

      Still unconfirmed.
      Last edited by Gradient Shift; 07-17-2014, 11:57 AM. Reason: Typed Russian, meant Ukrainian. Fixed.
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      • #4
        There's reporting (not confirmed) that it was actually pro-Russian rebels in Ukraine that shot it down. The Ukranian President is confirming that the Ukraine Armed Forces did not fire at any targets in the sky.


        We have to be careful this doesn't turn out to be a pretext for Putin to go into Ukraine.

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        • #5
          We have so many "eyes" on that area that we'll know soon enough.

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          • #6
            Believed to be brought down by the BUK missile. Better known as SA-17 or SA-11 (SAMs).

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            • #7
              Manifests show 23 Americans were onboard.

              This is the problem with isolationism. This was a flight to Kuala Lampor, not a war torn area. If we're able to track backward that the people that shot this down were Russian special forces masquerading as separatists in Ukraine, this will get real messy real fast.

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              • #8
                Let the Eastern European finger pointing begin.

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                • #9
                  The black box has been found. But will Putin try to wrestle it away to Russia?

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                  • #10
                    The BUK is such a sophisticated system, it's hard not to see RU fingers on it. It's not like a shoulder fired SA-7. It's multiple missiles sitting on a sophisticated vehicle that kinda looks like a small APC. God help us all if it was actually Russian forces on the Russian side (presumably accidental, but then again......) that shot down a plane with 23 Americans on it.

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                    • #11
                      Dear President Obama, you need to cancel your f**king fundraisers for tonight.

                      Whether it was accidental or not, 23 Americans were on a civ plane shot down by forces that were either directly Russian, or Russian backed.

                      This is going to escalate one way or the other. This is an international event. The Ron Pauls of the world need to go climb back under their naïve rocks and STFU. This is why the world matters. This is how things spin out of control.

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                      • #12
                        The debris can be found as far as 9 miles away. If that is the case it is sounding more and more like it was shot down rather than something like random sudden structural failure.
                        “You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.” ― Winston Churchill

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by EmmaPeel View Post
                          This is going to escalate one way or the other. This is an international event. The Ron Pauls of the world need to go climb back under their naïve rocks and STFU. This is why the world matters. This is how things spin out of control.
                          Well said, as usual, Emma.

                          This was likely shot down by the "Pro Russin rebels" who conviently wear Russian special forces uniforms, and equipment

                          This may be the Lusitania of the 21st century.
                          I yell "PIKACHU" before I tase someone.

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                          • #14
                            http://www.newrepublic.com/article/1...airlines-plane

                            Rebels are now denying that they shot down the plane, but there are now screenshots floating around the Russian-language internet from what seems to be the Facebook page of Igor Strelkov, a rebel leader in eastern Ukraine, showing plumes of smoke and bragging about shooting down a Ukrainian military Antonov plane shortly before MH17 fell. "Don't fly in our skies," he reportedly wrote. If that's true, it would seem rebels downed the jetliner, having mistaken it for a Ukrainian military jet.


                            Me thinks that Igor Strelkov will soon be making an international flight with a bag over his head...

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                            • #15
                              News reports that American Satellites have confirmed that plane was in fact shot down...Missile was tracked but not sure exactly which side of the border it was fired from.....I have zero faith in a certain individual taking a strong stance in this incident..
                              Retired LASD

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