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  • Only In Los Angeles - The Wrong Black Heroes

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100304/...ry_suspensions

    3 LA teachers removed over choice of black heroes

    By CHRISTINA HOAG, Associated Press Writer Christina Hoag, Associated Press Writer – 2 hrs 48 mins ago

    LOS ANGELES – Three Los Angeles elementary school teachers accused of giving children portraits of O.J. Simpson, Dennis Rodman and RuPaul to carry in a Black History Month parade have been removed from their classrooms, a school district spokeswoman said Wednesday.

    Children from other classes at the school displayed photos of more appropriate black role models, such as Nelson Mandela, Harriet Tubman and President Barack Obama, Los Angeles Unified School District spokeswoman Gayle Pollard-Terry said.

    The incident occurred Friday at Wadsworth Avenue Elementary School in South Los Angeles, where the student body is more than 90 percent Latino.

    District Superintendent Ramon Cortines placed the teachers — all white men who teach first, second and fourth grades — on administrative leave on Tuesday while an investigation is conducted, Pollard-Terry said.

    "The superintendent will not let anyone make a mockery out of Black History Month," she said.

    The issue was brought to district officials' attention by the Los Angeles chapter of the NAACP after the organization received a complaint early Monday, chapter President Leon Jenkins said.

    Jenkins said he felt the teachers acted in concert to mock black heroes and children's innocence.

    "These are not the people we want our young people to emulate or believe these people represent the best of the African-American community," Jenkins said. "It's hard for the NAACP to believe this was a mistake."

    Simpson, a former NFL star, is serving a nine-year prison sentence for robbery and kidnapping. He was famously acquitted in 1995 of murdering his ex-wife and her friend.

    RuPaul is a drag queen performer. Rodman, a former NBA star, has gained notoriety for bad boy behavior on and off the basketball court.

    Some parents at the school on Wednesday said the issue was overblown.

    Sharon Tinson, who has two daughters at the school and attended Friday's celebration, said she had been surprised to see Simpson displayed in the parade. But she noted that Simpson, like Rodman, was a great athlete before falling from grace. RuPaul simply has an alternative lifestyle, she added.

    She noted the event also included a tribute to pop singer Michael Jackson, who has also had a checkered career.

    "I kind of laughed at it," Tinson said. "I wasn't offended."

    Gabriel Blackson, whose son attends the school, said he also took a larger view of the ruckus.

    "These guys were heroes before. People make mistakes," he said. "I think they show kids they can be somebody, to push them to be somebody."

    Jenkins said he is calling for the teachers to be fired.
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    This was lame for sure and these teachers picked the wrong way to make a point of how we often pick the wrong people as role models.

    But with that said, is there a National Caucasion History Month? Oriental History Month? Latino Hisory Month? Native American History Month? Eskimo History Month?

    Just askin....
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    • #3
      Originally posted by 1042 Trooper View Post
      This was lame for sure and these teachers picked the wrong way to make a point of how we often pick the wrong people as role models.

      But with that said, is there a National CaucasionHistory Month? Or would that somehow be racist?

      Just askin....
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      • #4
        Originally posted by willowdared View Post
        Yeah....the other 11 months of the year.
        I've got your point, WD, but not exactly what I meant to point out - in fact I edited my post to clear it up.

        Why do we single out one race? We are a melting pot here or we are supposed to be. And separating out just one race for its accomplishments leaves out many, many others who make up the American people and their works.

        My point here was that when we do this - it opens it up to just the kind of BS these teachers did.

        One people. One America.

        This is also why I think it's lame to all one's self a Mexican American, or African American, or Italian American.

        It just seems exclusive to me.
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        • #5
          See this is why I didn't care or got involved in school too much, stupidity caused by adults...I just got my piece of paper and bounced...Role models, that's my generation problem, we really don't have many at all to look up too; at least MLK and many other were alive and making things happend when you were in school or out in the world...

          Now, it's either some ex drunk/junkie give us the "we all make mistakes" speech or someone who used to be a tool but found God and is giving us the "follow your dream speech"...

          Many famous people fall into the 2 catagories above...

          I respect and understand Black History month, but I hope the NAACP is just as upset that the kids aren't being taught math, geography, reading, and other important material...
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          • #6
            Originally posted by 1042 Trooper View Post
            This was lame for sure and these teachers picked the wrong way to make a point of how we often pick the wrong people as role models.

            But with that said, is there a National Caucasion History Month?
            See Willow's post above.


            Originally posted by 1042 Trooper View Post
            Native American History Month?
            http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-...heritage-month


            Originally posted by 1042 Trooper View Post
            Eskimo History Month?
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            Originally posted by 1042 Trooper View Post
            Oriental History Month?
            I don't think they are welcoming that title as it seems to be a degrading term hence the change to Asian-American. Yes they have tier month too.
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_P...Heritage_Month


            Originally posted by 1042 Trooper View Post
            Latino Hisory Month?

            Yep they have one too......just say'n http://www.hispanicheritagemonth.gov/
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            • #7
              Originally posted by 1042 Trooper View Post
              I've got your point, WD, but not exactly what I meant to point out - in fact I edited my post to clear it up.

              Why do we single out one race? We are a melting pot here or we are supposed to be. And separating out just one race for its accomplishments leaves out many, many others who make up the American people and their works.

              My point here was that when we do this - it opens it up to just the kind of BS these teachers did.

              One people. One America.

              This is also why I think it's lame to all one's self a Mexican American, or African American, or Italian American.

              It just seems exclusive to me.


              I see your point and understand it completely. A lot of times I don't like the way people separate themselves into groups. They use it to gain advantage or favoritism over others they identify as "not one of us."

              But in a case such as this, I think it is very acceptable to celebrate history of a culture. I don't have a problem with it.

              The only question I have is, if we celebrated white history month, would it be accepted by non-whites or would it be considered racist? What if there were a NAAWP or a White Chamber of Commerce?

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              • #8
                BTW. Stupid play for the teachers. I predict a loss of careers and pensions.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by That Guy View Post
                  "Whites" may have come to America but lots of foreigners broke their backs building it and suffering at the hands of others along with being eradicated......
                  Ummm, wouldn't coming to America have made them foreigners as well?
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Looker View Post
                    BTW. Stupid play for the teachers. I predict a loss of careers and pensions.
                    I agree... but I'd bet ya a bucket of chicken that if these teachers were anything but white it would have been a nonissue.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by 1042 Trooper View Post
                      I've got your point, WD, but not exactly what I meant to point out - in fact I edited my post to clear it up.

                      Why do we single out one race? We are a melting pot here or we are supposed to be. And separating out just one race for its accomplishments leaves out many, many others who make up the American people and their works.

                      My point here was that when we do this - it opens it up to just the kind of BS these teachers did.

                      One people. One America.

                      This is also why I think it's lame to all one's self a Mexican American, or African American, or Italian American.

                      It just seems exclusive to me.
                      Because this country was built off of slaves backs.... you can't understand the cause for some different thinking

                      what if somebody kidnapped you and made you do work without pay .....how would you react.

                      imagine your self in there shoes ....not the crooks who make excuses ....the folks who use America for what it was made for.That is capitalism...it will get anybody out of any trouble if, you put enough work in.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by nuthead View Post
                        Ummm, wouldn't coming to America have made them foreigners as well?

                        Yes my words were minced. I meant to say what was later said by DudefromNC. I'm sure you know what I meant. Regardless I removed it earlier as to not start some "us vs. them " topic.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DudefromNC View Post
                          Because this country was built off of slaves backs.... you can't understand the cause for some different thinking

                          what if somebody kidnapped you and made you do work without pay .....how would you react.

                          imagine your self in there shoes ....not the crooks who make excuses ....the folks who use America for what it was made for.That is capitalism...it will get anybody out of any trouble if, you put enough work in.
                          most slaves in America were black... we get that.... you can only ride the slavery train for so long...

                          you weren't a slave... you parents were not slaves... your grandparents weren't slaves...

                          you have not suffered the effects of it whatsoever...

                          slavery was a part of every ancient civilization ever... look up slavery in the Roman Empire and in Italy... slavery was still prominent in Saudi Arabia until the 50's...

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by jannino View Post
                            most slaves in America were black... we get that.... you can only ride the slavery train for so long...

                            you weren't a slave... you parents were not slaves... your grandparents weren't slaves...

                            you have not suffered the effects of it whatsoever...

                            slavery was a part of every ancient civilization ever... look up slavery in the Roman Empire and in Italy... slavery was still prominent in Saudi Arabia until the 50's...
                            +1,000

                            What gets me are the *******s like my sister who feel guilty about slavery when our family never owned slaves... and even if they had I wouldn't feel guilty.
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                            • #15
                              I'd really like to lobby for a national a$#hole month. I'll pose for the poster.
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