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    NOPD .. don't judge based on media......

    ask some guys that were in New Orleans first. i saw the NOPD working side by side with many other agencies. most had the same look we had in NYC after 9/11. they just looked worn out!

    many held their ground, and answered the call.

    rob, NYPD

    here is a pic of "Fort Apache" by the French Quarter.
    The NOPD

    sorry about the TheOle34 overlay... but my pics keep getting reposted.
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  • #2
    Nobody from New Orleans had it easy either at work or their personal life. It's easy to armchair quarterback them. I have nothing but high regards for NOPD & NOFD.
    That's right, bring me my royal coffee!

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    • #3
      let's hope they raise the pay and hiring standards







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      • #4
        Originally posted by Java King
        Nobody from New Orleans had it easy either at work or their personal life. It's easy to armchair quarterback them. I have nothing but high regards for NOPD & NOFD.
        I think you shouldnt praise corruption and lawlessness.

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        • #5
          I was there. They were not appreciative of the help we gave them. They resented us being there. They are a bunch of uneducated thugs in uniform. Superintendant Eddie Compass is an embarrassment and I wouldn't be surprised if he's indicted for something.

          NOPD "borrowed" Cadillacs from a local dealership. Superintendant Eddie Compass showed up at the WWL TV station for an interview in a brand new Cadillac Escalade. Why did they need Cadillacs? The local Ford dealership was out of Crown Victoria's and Taurus's?

          Personnel from the group I was with caught NOPD officers looting the Oakwood Mall. NOPD officers also looted the Riverwalk Mall and threatened the Harbor Police officers that tried to stop them.

          Hopefully the FBI will disband the NOPD. As an agency, they're an embarrassment to law enforcement. Their initials are appropriate: NOPD. No PD.
          Last edited by Wyatt Earp; 10-16-2005, 03:39 AM.
          "There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." -Ernest Hemingway

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          • #6
            i was there also, and found the majority to be stand up guys. are you going to tell me that you believe the ENTIRE department is bad? we have been there before... being judged for the actions of a few. out of the 30-35,000 we have at any given time... we have had a few incidents. i think you ran into the $hitheads of their bunch. i personally ran into quite a few of the good guys.
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            • #7
              They have had the reputation of being the most corrupt PD in the nation for years. From what I saw, they lived up to that reputation. Including their superintendant, down to the beat cop.

              I didn't even mention the 10 that were arrested for breaking into rooms at a local hotel and stealing the guests property from the rooms.

              Please don't compare the NYPD to the NOPD. There were no reports of NYPD looting when 9/11 happened. They operate completely differently in New Orleans. The public fears the NOPD, just ask an average citizen on the street.

              The corruption we witnessed wasn't just limited to a few. When the leader of their department shows up to an interview driving a stolen Cadillac Escalade, it sends a blatant message to the public.

              Wait and see what happens.
              Last edited by Wyatt Earp; 10-16-2005, 04:14 PM.
              "There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." -Ernest Hemingway

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              • #8
                it is a shame that the people you dealt with were all bad....
                once again.. i will tell you that i dealt with some real stand-up guys and gals. real good cops.

                if i judged entire depts on what i saw individuals doing during our stay... i would say they all have problems.

                also... the comparison i made is valid.. you interpret wrong.

                "we have been there before... being judged for the actions of a few. out of the 30-35,000 we have at any given time... we have had a few incidents."

                my dept, as well as many others have been JUDGED by outsiders before. the grouping of all together is the issue i have. the MAJORITY of the officers i met were outstanding. once again it is a shame you met the bad ones.
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                • #9
                  You're insulting your own department by making that comparison. Again, there were no reports of NYPD officers stealing from the citizens they swore to protect, like they did in New Orleans. I didn't see the NYPD Commissioner driving a stolen Cadillac like I did in New Orleans. Like I said before, they operate completely differently down there. If you didn't notice it, you weren't paying attention or you didn't spend any time with the citizens. I spent a month living at the WWL TV station in the French Quarter. In general, the citizens fear the NOPD. There are always a few who fear the police for one reason or another, but these were people who had no negative contacts with the NOPD.

                  There is another thread on Officer.com that goes into further detail. I'm sure there are a few that are true law enforcement officers in New Orleans, but I saw a lot of criminals in uniform from the Superintendant, down to the patrol officer.

                  For more information, log on to WWLTV.com

                  http://www.wwltv.com/local/stories/w...s.38eaafa.html
                  Last edited by Wyatt Earp; 10-26-2005, 04:29 AM.
                  "There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." -Ernest Hemingway

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                  • #10
                    repeat for clarity...
                    i am not comparing stealing.

                    i am comparing the outside judgement in general.

                    been doing this job for 15 years, and have seen many types cross my path. i have seen officers faced with tragedy beyond most officers wildest dreams, and fears. what i saw in NO was a MAJORITY of standup guys and gals. EOS.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by theole34
                      NOPD .. don't judge based on media......

                      ask some guys that were in New Orleans first.
                      Funny you should mention that. Our first group of officers came back from NO a couple of weeks ago and I asked. Here's what I was told.

                      One of our officers was paired up with a Louisiana State Trooper and assigned to looter patrol on nights. Power was out in NO so there was no street or other lighting. While on patrol they interrupted a group of looters who took off on them in a Cadillac Escalade filled with loot. Because their unit's radio was on a California police frequency, they could not call for help. They lit the car up but it failed to yield. After chasing it for some time, the car pulled over and several guys in plain clothes jumped out flashing badges, saying they were NOPD and to back off. Not knowing who they really were, our officer and the LSP Trooper continued to hold them at gunpoint and told them to get on the ground. The suspects refused to comply but made no move for their guns.

                      As the standoff continued, a marked NOPD unit pulled up. Instead of backing our officer and the LSP trooper, the uniformed NOPD guys told them to let the suspects go because they really were NOPD officers. When my officer pointed out that they caught them looting he was told, "If you want to go back to California alive, let them go." When he looked over, the uniformed officers in the marked NOPD unit had their guns pointed at him and not the suspects. Outnumbered and outgunned by their "brother officers" our guy and the LSP trooper left.

                      When they got back to the staging area at end of shift, our officer notified a Deputy Chief from our agency (who came with our group) as to what had happened. The DC told him to gather up all our personnel and have them go to the briefing area. After everyone was together, the DC came in, accompanied by the Chief of the Louisiana State Police. The DC told the rest of our people what had happened. He also told them it was our agency's policy that a looter was a looter, even if he had a badge in his pocket, and was to be treated as such. He also reminded our personnel that when confronted by deadly force they may respond in kind. Our guys cheered.

                      The next day, the Louisiana officials overseeing mutual aid assignments mysteriously took all the personnel from my agency off of looter patrol and reassigned them to house search and rescues.

                      Feel free to draw your own conclusions.
                      Last edited by L-1; 10-26-2005, 02:59 PM.
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                      • #12
                        When you see how New Orleans politicians behaved during the entire incident, I am not surprised that they have major problems with their police department.

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                        • #13
                          Katrina

                          Wyatt Erypt wish I would have met you. There are a lot of officers that appreciated what the other agencies did for us. You are right those things did happen. i've been on th NOPD 26 years and this our all time low. I kind of embassared to say I'm a NOPD officer at times. They have the good the bad and the ugly. You really got to see the ugly in the 4th district at the Oakwood Mall. I worked and done nothing that would make me or my family, or my church, embarrased about. I did my job and that's it. The hiring standards have to be raised. When I joined I was investigated with a fine tooth comb. It's not that way any more. I've had it after this and will take the pension. All that stole should be prosecuted like any other common criminal. They are many rank which I am all feel the same way no matter who you are from the chief on down. I can still sleep at night and hold my head high. Again from one cop to another thanks for being there and there are many officers that were apprecative of your help. I wish it would have been a more more pleasant experience when we needed help at a very critical time. I am one cop and there are many more that want to thank you for coming to New Orleans. Your comments and feelings are fully warranted. Joseph
                          Last edited by Joseph; 10-28-2005, 10:07 PM.
                          Stay safe and watch your back. Survived Katrina. Now a Official member of the Chocolate City Police.

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                          • #14
                            Great post Joseph...

                            not that I beleived that they were ALL thugs, but you just proved that there are some good folks on the NOPD.
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                            • #15
                              That "Joseph" is a real "stand up guy", I like that.

                              I have heard the comments from guys returning who traveled through here that I caught stopped at a coffee stop, and the stories do cut both ways, depending in large part where they were working.

                              The bad guys in "L-1" post (the NO uniform and escalade occupants) are just an example of "a rotting puss of a boil on society's a55".
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