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  • MN Cop Hopeful
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    Hello, I live in Minnesota and I know of several fire departments that use a locally built machine called a Wilcraft. It's part ATV and part johnboat. Originally created for ice fishing and for duck hunting, it was adapted by the company to be a ice rescue unit. I am not sure if this is what you were looking for, but for the several ice rescues I have seen (both real and training) it seems to be fairly effective.

    I'm not sure if they are still making the rescue model or not, but if you can always reach out and contact them.

    https://www.thewilcraft.com/

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  • Flank3
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    Former AAV rider here. When the water goes above the tracks, you engage the waterjets. It is slow, like 5 MPH (4 knots) on the jets. The interior fills up with diesel fumes pretty quick, poor air circulation, and the queasy start puking. One oopsy and you all drown.
    You can go from there. On land, maybe 25mph on pavement. I did this launching from an LPD off the coast and going into a beach.
    If you are fording a water crossing, it might be good, but don't take my advice on that for how much it can take; maybe better than a regular car or truck, but NO magic piece of gear. It will kill you in a hurry. High maintenance. Other than any electronics added to them, they are basically 1940s tech in the underpinnings. Did I mention high maintenance and kill you in a hurry?

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  • NeeCee
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    I am pretty sure you have to be somewhere where there is rough terrain in order to be able to claim that you drive an ATV as a rescue vehicle. Must be a lot of fun, though!

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  • ummone
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    Well I'm getting me one of these when I get the chance.

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...Liz_wyHmvOr5oQ

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  • fishAK
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    ATV=All Terrain Vehicles, i.e. 4-wheelers, etc.

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  • vietboy1st
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    never heard of ATV but i heard of AAV in the US Marine Corps for infantry guys...

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  • 913
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    I've driven a few Argos rented for special events. They move like tanks and are not very user friendly. However, in my opinion (I do have significant SAR experience), they would be good in certain situations. Based on my limited exposure to them, I would absolutely not want them to be my mainstay though. I would rather have ATVs and/or Rhino type rigs.

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  • beungood
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    I think I would go with an Argo 8x8 or a Mudd Ox 8x8. Both are well built machines. The inventor of the Mudd Ox designed his machine around the shortcomings of the other two on the market.

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  • fishAK
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    Argo. I can't even think of anyone that has a Max anymore.

    They even make SAR variants and accessories. Here you go:

    http://www.argoatv.com/utility/stori...BvkPoLCg%3D%3D

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  • beungood
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    We were out in a swamp and one of the Max's blew a drive train (he had a modded engine with rev kit,exhaust and other goodies and was throwing out 55 HP) so we hooked him up to the Argo 6x6 and towed him and the Max out. we even tugged him up over boulders blocking the trail. I think the newer machines are being offered with fuel injection and 30 or 40 horsepower.

    one of our friends is a retired leo and paralyzed from the waist down. He has been able to resume hunting and fishing with his Argo 6x6. He has even rigged a platform and electric chain fall in the woods for a stand. He once rescued a hunter who fell from a tree.It was written up in the paper.

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  • SBSO_DISPATCHER
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    I want 1........

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  • fyrdog
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    I've only used the MAX units on a recreational level, and they were very undepowerd compared to the ARGO's I have test driven. I never had a problem with the quality of the MAX, I just found them very lacking in the power deptartment. I also prefered the handle bar steering on the ARG to the twin stick skid steer system on the MAX and the extra size of the ARGO appeared to be an assest as well.

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  • beungood
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    I think I would only consider Argo 8x8 or the Mudd Ox. Id lean toward the latter after seeing what it could do and how the designer corrected some of the shortfalls of the other machines. The build quality would also make me lean this way. Did you have a bad experience with the Max Units?

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  • fyrdog
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    We've looked at them in the past, and liked them but we just couldn't get the funding. Stay away from the MAX ATV's and stick with the larger AGO 8X8's. If you think that you will need more speed on the water ARGO has an optional motor mount for and outboard.

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  • beungood
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    I think it would be a pretty decent SAR vehicle depending on the vehicle and how it was outfitted. I started thinking about one of these after a search for someone using the Quad towing a floatable litter trailer. The quad itself doesn't float and only has room for one.

    I was out with some friends who had a couple of different models (6x6 versions) that they modified slightly by remving the govener and installing a rev kit. we went through several swamps ,climbed a few hills and leaving we climbed right up over logs and some fairly large boulders that no quad would have been able to climb over. And we were carrying a couple of people in each unit!

    I saw an 8x8 version and it had room for 6 or, I thought a litter and two or 3 people(Paramedics) could be rigged with a roof and heater for cold weather. I looked into it a little further and found a newer model (Mudd Ox) that the designer modeled to make up for the downfalls of other models. They are geared pretty low but can tow vehicles depending how they are spec'd. There is even severaL YOUTUBE VIDS of landowners accessing property in Canada and Alaska and fording swift moving water with them. I thought they could be pretty helpful in flooded areas until the Guard comes in with thier equpment or areas too tight for them..They won't break any landspeed records,but, the areas they can reach who wants to go that fast..

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