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  • #16
    Originally posted by willowdared View Post
    And yet Johnny Sutton would have you believe that drug smugglers are usually not armed.

    Funny you mention Sutton. The drug dealer turned Gov't witness against the two Border Patrol Agents was just sentenced in El Paso this week to 9.5 years. Geee Sutton would have all of AMerica believe there was not enough evidence to indict Aldrete prior to the trial af the two BP Agents. Yet shortly AFTER the trial Aldrete is indicted and now sentenced.

    Sutton lied to the public. The AUSA's that prosecuted the Agents had EVIDENCE Aldrete was running dope prior to trial.

    So tell me, who is protecting who?

    The case against the BP Agents was a political move at a time when the Mexican Consulate was complaining to the U.S. about aggressive BP tactics involving their "migrant" citizens.

    Now we have more evidence of "aggressive" behavior of Mexican military but Sutton still has head buried in the sand.

    God Bless Texas.

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    • #17
      Im suprised Sutton hasent had the agent arrested for instigating the standoff or something. That guy really really needs to be looked into, im convinced he is in the pay of the Mexican government and or a drug cartel ... hell im convinced that a significant amount of our government officials are being paid off by Mexico and or the cartels.

      How many more times must the Mexican military penetrate our borders and commit acts like this before Washington does something? I am convinced that many many many more people will have to die before something of value is done about the border with Mexico.

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      • #18
        I'm wondering how long until "all out war" breaks out down there on the border. From what I've been hearing its pretty nasty down there anyway. How long until we actually start sending troops down there AND actually doing something about it.

        They come across our border with weaponry? Take them out. You know damn well that they know where the border is...this "we were lost" stuff is crap.

        I still like my solution. Set up the fence along the border like an "invisible dog fence". Except this time...when somebody is deported, plant a small explosive in their neck, or heart, or someplace else vital. Now, if they try to cross the border illegally the device detonates. If they actually go through the process, it can be deactivated/removed.

        Or is that a little too harsh, lol.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by DAL View Post
          If they did that, someone would get hurt. How could you justify ambushing poor, misguided Mexicans?

          After all, the Mexicans could have just been there by mistake. And besides, they didn't shoot anyone, so why would you assume that they were dangerous and intended to hurt someone?
          DAL......I cant tell on this one....are you being facetious? (I hope).....
          The posts on this forum by this poster are of his personal opinion, and his personal opinion alone

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          • #20
            Originally posted by jtaylor38 View Post
            I'm wondering how long until "all out war" breaks out down there on the border. From what I've been hearing its pretty nasty down there anyway. How long until we actually start sending troops down there AND actually doing something about it.

            They come across our border with weaponry? Take them out. You know damn well that they know where the border is...this "we were lost" stuff is crap.

            I still like my solution. Set up the fence along the border like an "invisible dog fence". Except this time...when somebody is deported, plant a small explosive in their neck, or heart, or someplace else vital. Now, if they try to cross the border illegally the device detonates. If they actually go through the process, it can be deactivated/removed.

            Or is that a little too harsh, lol.
            I can forsee that in the future, our troops lined up along the border.


            The implant is a little on the twisted side, but it would work. Train them like we train our dogs on the invisible fence. Place flags to show them where the line is so the learn how far they can go, then take them down once they have been trained. LOL
            The Red, Bold, Italic is my official sarcasm tag.



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            • #21
              Originally posted by LA DEP View Post
              DAL......I cant tell on this one....are you being facetious? (I hope).....
              I was being sarcastic. It was a takeoff on Scratched13's comments on the victim who shot the armed robber. Scratched felt that armed robbery is just a property crime unless the robbers shoots someone, and that the victim should not attempt to apprehend the suspect because someone might get hurt.

              I suggest mining the Mexican border.
              Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. -- Aldous Huxley
              Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. -- Albert Einstein

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              • #22
                I love the part about "it was unclear why mexican troops were in the US"

                well let me guess, smuggling dope, escorting illegals, something along those lines.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by DAL View Post
                  I was being sarcastic. It was a takeoff on Scratched13's comments on the victim who shot the armed robber. Scratched felt that armed robbery is just a property crime unless the robbers shoots someone, and that the victim should not attempt to apprehend the suspect because someone might get hurt.

                  I suggest mining the Mexican border.
                  ahhhhh.....ok, whew!.....thought you went over to the dark side or something on me.....
                  The posts on this forum by this poster are of his personal opinion, and his personal opinion alone

                  "Politicians are like diapers. They need to be changed often and for the same reason"

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                  • #24
                    Just read the thread entitled " Victim had a gun "
                    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. -- Aldous Huxley
                    Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. -- Albert Einstein

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                    • #25
                      Commentary Written By a Friend of Mine

                      http://borderreporter.com/?p=579

                      U.S. Suffers Second Biggest Defeat Since the Alamo

                      THE BORDER REPORT

                      Four conscripts of the Mexican Army got the drop on a U.S. Border Patrol agent out towards Lukeville early Sunday morning, holding him at gunpoint for four minutes. And as a reader of this Web site notes, what the hell was the agent thinking?

                      First, when they’re not on foot, the Mexican soldiers in that area are patrolling in Humvees and deuce and a halfs. Border Patrol agents are in Chevy Tahoes, retrofitted Hummers, and quad-runners. There is no logical reason the agent couldn’t move away from them fast enough, unless he was A) sleeping B) lost C) soft.

                      But apparently it wasn’t even that exciting. According to the Tucson Sector’s Border Patrol union, the soldiers were on foot when they snuck up on the agent. Again, this is Sonoyta we’re talking about here, as desolate a stretch of the Sonoran Desert as you’re ever going to find. He couldn’t hear them coming?

                      I asked retired Border Patrol agent Dave Stoddard about the incident and he says no.

                      “Keep in mind that these agents are looking on the ground for tracks. It takes concentration when you’re cutting sign, it’s easy to focus in on the ground and lose track of what’s happening around you,” he says.

                      “What irks me about it is that anytime Mexico gets an incursion, there’s a big investigation conducted by the Mexicans and the Mexican Congress starts firing off diplomatic letters of protest. But when the Mexicans do things like this, the United States steps back, winks its eye and just kind of says, ‘oh well, these things happen when the border’s not clearly marked.’”

                      Now, that’s also true. Can you imagine the reaction if U.S. agents crossed into Mexico?

                      It was about a year ago or so that the U.S. Army suffered its biggest defeat since the Alamo when a group of National Guardsmen ran away from a group of drug mules carrying rifles near Sasabe. The guardsmen were given medals for having the valor not to escalate the situation.

                      Using that logic, this agent should soon be expecting a first class flight out to Washington for his award.

                      – Michel Marizco
                      Going too far is half the pleasure of not getting anywhere

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                      • #26
                        I say lets post some M198's....and now M777's down there...have some FO's out there and just start practicing Fire Missions. Have it be pre-deployment training for FO's and Arty units. The FO's see people crossing and call in some fun fire missions on them. Either that or have a few of them leveled off for some good KillerJr missions.
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                        • #27
                          I feel for anyone who is in the an Agent on the border. I dont know how they keep getting recruits. Your government will rather cover the *** of another country than protect its own employees. A while back our gvt sends money to mexico to "stop drug smugglers" but it turns out that they money went to aid the drug smugglers, and then they decide to do it again this year. Then they charge and convict our agents for doing their job and let the smuggler continue smuggling BTW he was just charged and got 9 years for drug trafficking. Illegals are flooding into the US and the people in washington could care less. I think that Washington should move to a border town and they should be forced to live down there. Just google Laredo and see the amount of problems. I have read stories of Mexican Military Personal being seen 60-100 miles onto US soil. Mexican Military Helicopters landing on US soil, Mexican Military shooting at US agents and County Law Enforcement. Not to mention the kidnapings, Murders and other crimes that happen along our border. It is sad that our government would allow another country to invade and engage our Law Enforcement and Federal agents time and time again and they continue allow it. I bet if any of our Law Enforcement or Federal Agents engage them that there would be a full investigation and Mexico would demand and get the arrest and prosecution of anyone involved. Its all a set up for the NAFTA superhighway and the new currency the Pesollar, then we will all be living in Mexamericanada. I would like to say a big thanks to all the PC members of the US government and the tree hugging hippies that steamrolled our constitution and care more about the 3 spotted dessert something or other than the safety and security of this nation.
                          The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. -- Thomas Jefferson

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                          • #28
                            You Know I Read More And More About SCARY SH&T Like This,wtf I'm I Susposed To Do, All New Recuits Are Sent To The Southwest To Deal With Things Like That, But I've Also Read About This Johnny Sutton (HE HAS TO BE IN SOMEONES POCKET)..sounds Like Bpa's Are Screwed @ Least Until Bush Gets The HELL Out Of OffICE
                            Last edited by quannj; 08-10-2008, 08:36 PM.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by quannj View Post
                              But I've Also Read About This Johnny Sutton (HE HAS TO BE IN SOMEONES POCKET)..sounds Like Bpa's Are Screwed @ Least Until Bush Gets The HELL Out Of OffICE
                              Do you really think that either of the presidential candidates are going to crack down harder on this problem than Bush? That's one of my gripes about our choices this year.

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                              • #30
                                I realize the following question could be the start of a new thread or even a website, but;

                                Why is the U.S. everyone's punching bag? We seemingly support ever other nation out there. The U.N. exists because of our support, financially, militarily and diplomatically. France, only example I can think of right now does whatever they wish, whenever they wish, tells others to buzz off, yet reserves the right to criticize us when we don't seek their or the UN's approval. By the way, check out the members of the UN Security Council. At least 2 members are not friendly gov't's, to their own people. But I'm getting off track; This incursion is a perfect example. Mexican troops apparently wander in and out of the US, point weapons at a Federal Officer and go home, no big deal.

                                I really don't believe they were just "visiting". After reading the previous posts here, I had no idea this went on as often as it does, it would follow they were operating in an illegal manner. Protection for drug runners? illegal immigrants? Bootleg Corona? Who the hell knows, but what gets me is, it does'nt seem we care enough to find out. I'm growing weary of hearing how we're rascist or dscriminatory because we want to enact and/or enforce laws most other industrialized nations have, namely immigration laws.

                                We have been the world's cop for nearly a century, the world's building and loan and moral supportor for just as long. And here's another thing; I've heard statements how we have not been popular with europe or the rest of the world for the past 8 yrs. They've still take our money, still come to visit, still benefit from our actions, except maybe for France, Germany and Russia who were against going into Irag due to commercial links with Saddam. If the US was not or ceased to be the leader in most catagories, there would more violence and war than there is now. Many countries would not be the world fiscal and trade leaders they are now. They don't like Americans because we invaded a country run by a brutal dictator? What kind of countries do they like? I know, big rich ones that give money with no strings attached and make political decisions and select candidates based on what they, a foriegn nation, think.

                                Sorry if I've hijacked this thread. It was unintentional. Send me to Mexico, at least I can get back in from that border.

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