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  • Bpayne101
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    Oh yes it is the parents fault If they don't whoop their kid and put the fear of god into him for acting up Then it very much is thier fault... and by the way the parent controls what the kid watches and plays etc.... def the parents fault.

    if the parents got arrested when kids did that stuff I bet theyd think twice about not watching them or Forcefully instilling some kind of moral fabric

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  • Smolla126
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    Heh. Has anyone here seen McLieble (I think that's how its spelled??)? It's a British documentary similar to Supersize Me, except that is focuses more on the animal cruelty aspects on the McDonald's corporation. That's why I only shop at the family market.

    It ****es me off the way people treat animals like they are just taking up space.

    Its only a big deal when one of those abused animals, acting on instinct from years of abuse or neglect, attacks a human. Then the media is up in arms. It isn't the dogs fault. Blame the tard who beat it, kicked it, starved it and bred it to death.

    But you know what? I also hunt. I know it doesn't make sense to a lot of people, and it doesn't matter if I try to explain that hunting is essential for conservation, so I'm not going to even bother.

    Animal cruelty isn't the only thing that the United States needs to worry about (which is obvious from this video).

    Domestic abuse? Most of the cases in my city get N/P'd. Child neglect? Usually not reported. Rape? Again, not reported. The United States has a lot of problems.

    Parents care more about "hanging out" with their friends than parenting their children. Babies are having babies. The television is being used as a babysitter. Stores geared towards kids are selling g-strings, and teenage motherhood is glorified.

    What do you expect from a kid who's grown up under these circumstances? I'm surprised he didn't pull a Columbine. Although, with an act like this, its only a matter of time, I suppose.
    Last edited by Smolla126; 08-04-2008, 07:42 AM.

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  • bigislander72
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    Kosher Slaughter

    Since we are on the topic of animal cruelty. I think that it is disgusting that this is allowed in the US, that they are exempt from the provisions of the Humane Slaughter Act(that animals must be unconcious before being bled out)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzaeHfh65hs

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  • Monty Ealerman
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    It definitely would.

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  • Eclipse27
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    Originally posted by TheKansan View Post
    Let me ask you something Monty. Let's look back at the situation you described in your post concerning the preparation of cats as food. Let's just imagine that before the process began, those cats had a nail driven into their head that killed them instantly. The rest of the process however remained exactly the same. Would that make the process any more acceptable in your mind?
    Why wouldn't it?

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  • TheKansan
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    Let me ask you something Monty. Let's look back at the situation you described in your post concerning the preparation of cats as food. Let's just imagine that before the process began, those cats had a nail driven into their head that killed them instantly. The rest of the process however remained exactly the same. Would that make the process any more acceptable in your mind?

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  • Eclipse27
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    Originally posted by jshawn View Post
    Yeah stuff like that......maybe the gov can crack down on it but given the whining that would come from the businesses and no doubt payouts I doubt it'll change.
    It's a blatant flaw in our system. The government just looks the other way and pretends it isn't happening.

    Yet it's a huge deal that a kid killed a cat.

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  • jshawn
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    Originally posted by Eclipse27 View Post
    Actually they have the means to kill the animal instantly, and it's essentially painless. As monty mentioned, the bolt gun thingy.

    The problem is the beating, branding, and torturing that commonly goes on up until the death. Ok, that is easily avoidable, but it happens anyway. That is what me along with others have a problem with.

    *Pictures a pig hanging upside down by his hind legs, and falling 6 feet to the blood covered ground where it squirms around in it's own mess*
    Yeah stuff like that......maybe the gov can crack down on it but given the whining that would come from the businesses and no doubt payouts I doubt it'll change.

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  • Eclipse27
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    That's a good thing you do.

    I'm reading your blog...interesting. Sounds like you are mostly self sufficient when it comes to food? That's extremely uncommon nowadays.
    Last edited by Eclipse27; 08-03-2008, 05:07 PM.

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  • Mrs. Hoppes
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    Where we take our goats, they slaughter by a single shot to the head from the back. Death is instant.

    And for comparison to the previously posted factory farmed pig, here is how our bacon is raised:

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  • Eclipse27
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    Actually they have the means to kill the animal instantly, and it's essentially painless. As monty mentioned, the bolt gun thingy.

    The problem is the beating, branding, and torturing that commonly goes on up until the death. Ok, that is easily avoidable, but it happens anyway. That is what me along with others have a problem with.

    *Pictures a pig hanging upside down by his hind legs, and falling 6 feet to the blood covered ground where it squirms around in it's own mess*

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  • Monty Ealerman
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    Old school slaughterhouses had a knocker and a cutter. The knocker KOd the animal with a heavy sledgehammer, and the cutter caused the animal to bleed out. Most modern slaughterhouses use a pneumatic bolt in the head for large animals, and a cutting wheel for birds. I agree that nature is not especially merciful. I think we should take that as a guideline, and try to be less cruel than the rest of nature when we take prey.

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  • jshawn
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    Originally posted by djblank87 View Post
    I feel that no matter how we kill animals that are food, there will always be pain and people who disapprove of the killings that took place. If there was a magic wand that they could wave over the animals and they animals died but felt zero pain that would be awesome but it’s not going to happen.

    I think the people that eat meat are in a better place to say how their food should be destroyed than a person who does not eat the meat at all, yet likes to complain about how it is getting killed.

    Are things very bad at some slaughter houses? Yep, from what I have seen there are some that are horrible, but when is the destruction, killing or taking a life of anything going to look soft and acceptable?

    AMEN; that's what I say. In the end the killing is not going to "feel good" to the animal just like it doesn't in nature. If ppl watch the Discovery, Animal Planet, etc. enough they know that those prey suffer some horrendous deaths. NOW thankfully we are not like other animals and that we don't go after them alive and start biting them, breaking their necks with our jaws, etc. but in the end death is no fun for the animal. Again can there be some kinda way to make it better.....I guess!

    I guess in the end veggies should be complaining to nature as to why there are predators & prey to begin with. Why is it that creatures were made in need of eating another creature to live; why do we need to eat at all to function???? In the end it's not sooo much the eating meat that tortures those animals it's the business practice of cost cutting that tortures the animals. I'm sure they can come up w/ better less painful ways but it may be more expensive for them.

    I say veggies should spend their time taking up arms (not literally) with the businesses and not with those that are simply doing what nature intended. Is it every single slaughterhouse or just some that really get nasty with it??? I guess you can have a slaughterhouse that does it or we can be like the other animals and hunt it ourselves via painful ways because I doubt that the animals we eat are about to suffer heavenly deaths anytime soon.

    Maybe we can dope them up real good and knock them out first before slaughtering them but then again I don't know if that's safe for consumption later

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  • Mrs. Hoppes
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    And this is why we raise our own animals. It is not just what happens at the slaughter house that is cause for concern, but also how the animal is raised and fed before going to slaughter.

    As for describing how an animal has died while eating said animal, I actually have a written rule in my house that Charlie (or the others) do not need to tell company how "Daddy killed the chicken" while company is eating the chicken. Not everyone is appreciative of the fact that the clucking they are hearing outside was playing with the food they are currently eating.

    Of course that says nothing about the fact that my children routinely play with their food months before they eat it.

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  • djblank87
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    I feel that no matter how we kill animals that are food, there will always be pain and people who disapprove of the killings that took place. If there was a magic wand that they could wave over the animals and they animals died but felt zero pain that would be awesome but it’s not going to happen.

    I think the people that eat meat are in a better place to say how their food should be destroyed than a person who does not eat the meat at all, yet likes to complain about how it is getting killed.

    Are things very bad at some slaughter houses? Yep, from what I have seen there are some that are horrible, but when is the destruction, killing or taking a life of anything going to look soft and acceptable?

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