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  • t150vsuptpr
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    Originally posted by Mannix
    How many of your supervisors snitched their way to the top?
    None that I know of.

    It's generally not seen as a qualification for promotion.

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  • BLETfun
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    I really would not be bothered if he knew because I would tell him the truth if he ask ,I am honest that way. I really would rather speak the truth and keep my integrity than lie about what I think. It's not that I do not respect him or something but you can honestly see it.

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  • MacPointMan
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    this same thing happens in the military. Especially in the civilian world and in Corporate America. You sometimes walk away from a situation or supervisor scratching your head wondering and you got your job HOW?

    Lets just say without telling the story that I have seen it first hand especially in Unionized companies.

    MacPointMan

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  • equinox137
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    Originally posted by BLETfun View Post
    You know what is by far worse than anything? When the BLET class can see what this topic is about. One instructor in particular I have had fits this to a T. The bad thing is at least 2 in my BLET class itself are already riding the but kissing train ,always up the instructors snaz!
    I'd be careful about posting that on a public thread if I were you. You never know if your instructor is a frequent O.com poster or stops by these threads.

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  • BLETfun
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    (Thanks equinox137 was'nt thinking just being honest.) The bad thing is at least 2 in my BLET class itself are already riding the but kissing train ,always up the instructors snaz!
    Last edited by BLETfun; 04-13-2008, 08:11 PM. Reason: mistake

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  • Cockney Corner.
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    Originally posted by VA Dutch View Post
    That, Fella, is known as the Peter Principle. An alternative view is that people who are sometimes "slightly dangerous" to fellow workers end up being promoted into management - where it is believed they can do less damage
    It's the true the whole world over. I've seen supervisors who are out and out bullies. Supervisors who either timid and/or ignorant of the law ("I'm sorry Sir, we have the power to do that and I think we are fully justified in doing so") and those who choose to ignore it ("Respectfully, Sir, we don't have the power to do that"). Supervisors who will lie on being challenged on what they actually said. Supervisors who are sleeping with their subordinates. Supervisors who go home and stay there whilst ostensibly on duty. Etc. Etc. But, my experience is that d***heads like that are few and far between. It's just that every time they get banged down a rank when they get caught, they always seem to force their way back up again like really tenacious weeds.

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  • texaschickeee
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    Originally posted by VA Dutch View Post

    That, Fella, is known as the Peter Principle. An alternative view is that people who are sometimes "slightly dangerous" to fellow workers end up being promoted into management - where it is believed they can do less damage.
    TRUE DAT..............................

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  • texaschickeee
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    Originally posted by KEITH M.
    I had spent my time walking among the "building people" and I see how they rolled. I'll take my chances on the street with the hoodlums, anyday. It's safer out there. People who work the building should wear both their ballistic vest panels on their back - for their fellow admin backstabber's knives.
    very well said.

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  • mp1161
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    The term I believe is called "climbers". People that will do whatever they need to do for their own self-interests without regards to those around them. I call it cut-throat.

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    Originally posted by M-11 View Post
    You mean there's a way besides hard work and dedication?



    M-11
    As a friend of mine once said, "That's for suckers. For people that don't know any other way to get ahead."

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  • VegasMetro
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    We call it being promoted "one step above their abilities"... I guess we are fortunate, our majority of supervisors are worthy of their position and earned the spot. We have about 20% that are in over their heads. These are the ones who let the sub par employees continue on with unacceptable performance, or try to get the person to transfer instead of addressing their performance problems...

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  • VA Dutch
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    That, Fella, is known as the Peter Principle. An alternative view is that people who are sometimes "slightly dangerous" to fellow workers end up being promoted into management - where it is believed they can do less damage.

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  • Fella
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    I don't know if it's the same for all departments but it seems that if you're really good at what you do, you will stay where you are. Other than that you will be promoted to your level of incompetence.

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  • cc_chiller
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    Originally posted by BLETfun View Post
    I would rather him bethere than watching my back!

    That is pretty true with this guy!

    But, someday I am driving by his house and getting some pics of the patrol car out front.
    Last edited by cc_chiller; 04-12-2008, 05:05 AM.

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  • Kieth M.
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    Originally posted by Kieth M. View Post
    Sometimes they have been rewarded for their silence, their "I didn't see it," or "I wasn't aware of it" answers while protecting higher-ups who did something stupid.
    Okay, City Slickers is over....

    One morning, many years ago, I'm assigned to training session (Gays & Lesbians in the workplace), held at Parker Center, LAPD headquarters. Just my luck, most all my fellow session attendees work Internal Affairs. Oh, gosh, Commander CC (CCC) is there, too. A guy I've never cared for. So I'm sitting there getting trained with all the kool-aid drinkers and I see CCC is venturing off track, checking out his new department-issue laptop.

    Soon after he's waded through some departmental correspondence, a strange image pops up on his laptop screen. Within a few minutes, it comes into focus. It's a nude woman. Of course, she's got her arms placed to conceal the naughty-bits, but nonetheless, she's nude. She's nude, that's a department computer, and hello, we're in the workplace. There's a guy next to me, IAD Sgt. BW, and we look at each other with that, "WTF?" look. Seated next to CCC is a Lt. MS. and another Sgt. MS, both from IAD.

    I finish the training and go back to my office in Chinatown. I tell my fellow unit members what happened. We all can't believe that a guy who writes the rules has that crap on his laptop. One of the women in my unit is incensed, particulary because when he was in her chain of command he put her on the beach for a week, because she had a playful/sexy (but fully-clothed) portait on her desk. So this is hypocracy, running rampant.

    I tell the unit I'm going to complain, because it's wrong for him to do. But I'll only do it with their blessing, as we're a small and some might consider disposable unit. The unit OIC says to me, "you have to, anyway, maybe it's a test." So I call IAD and make the complaint.

    The next day, I'm interviewed. One of the IA sergeants asks his questions like he's CCC's employee/defense representative, the other listens and concurs that misconduct appears to have occurred.

    Some weeks later, I'm called down to IA HQ, where another guy shows me a printed out image which was the woman...it's Cindy Crawford. Yes, she is nude, but as I said, her naughty bits are covered. I identify the image. I am also asked to sign the, "I understand I am subect to discipline and/or civil penalty if I've lied" form. The IA guy tells me that CCC turned over the image, he'd loaded it on the laptop testing it out, and yadda-yadda-yadda. But, I'm told, no one else in the room saw the image on the screen. Not IAD Sgt. BW, not IAD Lt. MS, or IAD Sgt. MS, just me, Kieth M., alone.

    Weeks after that, the new Deputy Chief promotional list comes out. Yes, you gessed it...Commander CC is No. ONE on the list. However, right off the bat, they promote No. two on the list over CCC. But never fear, the discipline process is fair and CCC becomes Deputy Chief CC in due time.

    Some time later, Sgt. MS tells me, "Gosh, Kieth, even though I was sitting right next to CC, I never saw that image on his screen!" The moment I left his company I rolled my eyes and said, "Yeah, shuuuuurrrrrrr!"

    Yes, it works out for everyone. In fact, everyone at training that morning eventually got promoted. Sgt. BW is now Lt. BW. Lt. MS recently retired as Capt. MS., and Sgt. MS. is Lt. MS. Even Dep. Chief CC retired and got to be Chief CC of a Northern California agency. He has since retired from there and I've heard that they are very glad he's gone. He tried to recreate a mini-LAPD in his new setting, and it doesn't work outside L.A.! Sometimes, it doesn't even work in L.A. for that matter.

    Wait, did I say everyone got promoted? Later, Capt. MS sat on my one and only lieutenant oral. I came out No. 178 on the list. I remained a minimum-wage sergeant to the end of my career. I was soon, the only one at that disposable unit, whose position was eliminated and sent back to patrol. Which, in a way, was just fine and dandy with me. I had spent enough of my time walking among the "building people" and I see how they rolled. I'll take my chances on the street with the hoodlums, anyday. It's safer out there. People who work the building should wear both their ballistic vest panels on their back - for their fellow admin backstabber's knives.

    (Edited 04-13-09 to add: ...and, now Lt. BW just came out in band number one of the newest LAPD's Captain's list, he'll be Capt. BW in short order)

    So, Mannix, some people work their way up by being "gutten-klienen Duetschlanders."

    Now it's your turn to share...
    Last edited by Kieth M.; 04-13-2009, 08:12 AM.

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