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  • #16
    Okay, you guys have forced me to regurgitate a story. One I haven't thought of in a long time. But, you'll have to wait a few hours, as the wife and kids need my company, here, for a family movie night...I just baked some Lemon Gem cookies (from scratch) and we'll be watching City Slickers! Check back later!
    "You're never fully dressed without a smile."

    Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.

    Three things I know for sure: (1) No bad deed goes unrewarded, (2) No good deed goes unpunished, and (3) It is entirely possible to push the most devoted, loyal and caring person beyond the point where they no longer give a 5h!t.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by pulicords View Post
      +1!!! One of the largest common denominators I've seen recently is the relationship between turning a blind eye to a problem and the appreciation of this by higher ranking management. Many of our middle and even top managers have made a career of:
      1) Not recognizing problems.
      2) Not reacting to problems when they are thrust before them.
      3) Letting someone else deal with the problem when they are forced to see it.
      4) Letting someone else take "the fall" so liability doesn't affect their career.
      5) Taking the blame only when they know they're protecting someone who will reward them at a later point in time.

      I've never been afraid to make a decision, so long as it was reasonable given the alternatives that were apparent at the time. Unfortunately, this seems to be something strongly discouraged by the "new leadership." They seem to prefer getting a call on every little issue, then saying they'll "get back to you later." Of course they don't, which prevents you from doing the job when it needed to be done. They don't have to make a decision, don't have to approve or disapprove your's and can blame you later for either your action or inaction.
      KEITH M..
      Sometimes they have been rewarded for their silence, their "I didn't see it," or "I wasn't aware of it" answers while protecting higher-ups who did something stupid.
      .
      +1 to both.
      the less you know, the less you do, the more......."bootleg stuff the higher up ya go.
      sad....
      ‘Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.’
      Oscar Wilde

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      • #18
        The last person promoted to supervisor at my department was well known as an officer for not being able to fill out the simplest paperwork without screwing it up, pawning all of his calls off on others, disappearing for hours at a time (presumably to go to his house to nap), and bringing a portable DVD player along in his patrol car to watch movies all shift!!!!!!

        BUT, he played hockey on a team with other sergeants that were responsible for picking him as corporal! Coincidence? Maybe, but probably not. Several people at the dept play hockey, and all of them are now supervisors. As cpl. he now spends the majority of his shift sitting in his office surfing the internet and watching movies, occasionally taking time out to disappear for a couple hours to go home to do who knows what. (sorry, little bitter)
        "There are two sides to every story.... mine and wrong." ~Stephen Colbert

        "Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you walk into an open sewer and die." ~ Mel Brooks

        "Hope for the Best. Expect the worst. Life is a play. We're unrehearsed."~ Mel Brooks

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        • #19
          I would rather him bethere than watching my back!

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Kieth M. View Post
            Sometimes they have been rewarded for their silence, their "I didn't see it," or "I wasn't aware of it" answers while protecting higher-ups who did something stupid.
            Okay, City Slickers is over....

            One morning, many years ago, I'm assigned to training session (Gays & Lesbians in the workplace), held at Parker Center, LAPD headquarters. Just my luck, most all my fellow session attendees work Internal Affairs. Oh, gosh, Commander CC (CCC) is there, too. A guy I've never cared for. So I'm sitting there getting trained with all the kool-aid drinkers and I see CCC is venturing off track, checking out his new department-issue laptop.

            Soon after he's waded through some departmental correspondence, a strange image pops up on his laptop screen. Within a few minutes, it comes into focus. It's a nude woman. Of course, she's got her arms placed to conceal the naughty-bits, but nonetheless, she's nude. She's nude, that's a department computer, and hello, we're in the workplace. There's a guy next to me, IAD Sgt. BW, and we look at each other with that, "WTF?" look. Seated next to CCC is a Lt. MS. and another Sgt. MS, both from IAD.

            I finish the training and go back to my office in Chinatown. I tell my fellow unit members what happened. We all can't believe that a guy who writes the rules has that crap on his laptop. One of the women in my unit is incensed, particulary because when he was in her chain of command he put her on the beach for a week, because she had a playful/sexy (but fully-clothed) portait on her desk. So this is hypocracy, running rampant.

            I tell the unit I'm going to complain, because it's wrong for him to do. But I'll only do it with their blessing, as we're a small and some might consider disposable unit. The unit OIC says to me, "you have to, anyway, maybe it's a test." So I call IAD and make the complaint.

            The next day, I'm interviewed. One of the IA sergeants asks his questions like he's CCC's employee/defense representative, the other listens and concurs that misconduct appears to have occurred.

            Some weeks later, I'm called down to IA HQ, where another guy shows me a printed out image which was the woman...it's Cindy Crawford. Yes, she is nude, but as I said, her naughty bits are covered. I identify the image. I am also asked to sign the, "I understand I am subect to discipline and/or civil penalty if I've lied" form. The IA guy tells me that CCC turned over the image, he'd loaded it on the laptop testing it out, and yadda-yadda-yadda. But, I'm told, no one else in the room saw the image on the screen. Not IAD Sgt. BW, not IAD Lt. MS, or IAD Sgt. MS, just me, Kieth M., alone.

            Weeks after that, the new Deputy Chief promotional list comes out. Yes, you gessed it...Commander CC is No. ONE on the list. However, right off the bat, they promote No. two on the list over CCC. But never fear, the discipline process is fair and CCC becomes Deputy Chief CC in due time.

            Some time later, Sgt. MS tells me, "Gosh, Kieth, even though I was sitting right next to CC, I never saw that image on his screen!" The moment I left his company I rolled my eyes and said, "Yeah, shuuuuurrrrrrr!"

            Yes, it works out for everyone. In fact, everyone at training that morning eventually got promoted. Sgt. BW is now Lt. BW. Lt. MS recently retired as Capt. MS., and Sgt. MS. is Lt. MS. Even Dep. Chief CC retired and got to be Chief CC of a Northern California agency. He has since retired from there and I've heard that they are very glad he's gone. He tried to recreate a mini-LAPD in his new setting, and it doesn't work outside L.A.! Sometimes, it doesn't even work in L.A. for that matter.

            Wait, did I say everyone got promoted? Later, Capt. MS sat on my one and only lieutenant oral. I came out No. 178 on the list. I remained a minimum-wage sergeant to the end of my career. I was soon, the only one at that disposable unit, whose position was eliminated and sent back to patrol. Which, in a way, was just fine and dandy with me. I had spent enough of my time walking among the "building people" and I see how they rolled. I'll take my chances on the street with the hoodlums, anyday. It's safer out there. People who work the building should wear both their ballistic vest panels on their back - for their fellow admin backstabber's knives.

            (Edited 04-13-09 to add: ...and, now Lt. BW just came out in band number one of the newest LAPD's Captain's list, he'll be Capt. BW in short order)

            So, Mannix, some people work their way up by being "gutten-klienen Duetschlanders."

            Now it's your turn to share...
            Last edited by Kieth M.; 04-13-2009, 08:12 AM.
            "You're never fully dressed without a smile."

            Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.

            Three things I know for sure: (1) No bad deed goes unrewarded, (2) No good deed goes unpunished, and (3) It is entirely possible to push the most devoted, loyal and caring person beyond the point where they no longer give a 5h!t.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by BLETfun View Post
              I would rather him bethere than watching my back!

              That is pretty true with this guy!

              But, someday I am driving by his house and getting some pics of the patrol car out front.
              Last edited by cc_chiller; 04-12-2008, 05:05 AM.
              "There are two sides to every story.... mine and wrong." ~Stephen Colbert

              "Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you walk into an open sewer and die." ~ Mel Brooks

              "Hope for the Best. Expect the worst. Life is a play. We're unrehearsed."~ Mel Brooks

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              • #22
                I don't know if it's the same for all departments but it seems that if you're really good at what you do, you will stay where you are. Other than that you will be promoted to your level of incompetence.
                Cursed with common sense in a world void of it!!

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                • #23

                  That, Fella, is known as the Peter Principle. An alternative view is that people who are sometimes "slightly dangerous" to fellow workers end up being promoted into management - where it is believed they can do less damage.

                  The comments above reflect my personal opinion as a private citizen, ordinary motorist and all-around good guy.

                  The aforementioned advice should not be construed to represent any type of professional opinion, legal counsel or other type of instruction with regard to traffic laws, judicial proceedings or official agency policy.

                  ------------------------------------------------

                  "Ignorance on fire is hotter than knowledge on ice."

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                  • #24
                    We call it being promoted "one step above their abilities"... I guess we are fortunate, our majority of supervisors are worthy of their position and earned the spot. We have about 20% that are in over their heads. These are the ones who let the sub par employees continue on with unacceptable performance, or try to get the person to transfer instead of addressing their performance problems...

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by M-11 View Post
                      You mean there's a way besides hard work and dedication?



                      M-11
                      As a friend of mine once said, "That's for suckers. For people that don't know any other way to get ahead."

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                      • #26
                        The term I believe is called "climbers". People that will do whatever they need to do for their own self-interests without regards to those around them. I call it cut-throat.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by KEITH M.
                          I had spent my time walking among the "building people" and I see how they rolled. I'll take my chances on the street with the hoodlums, anyday. It's safer out there. People who work the building should wear both their ballistic vest panels on their back - for their fellow admin backstabber's knives.
                          very well said.
                          ‘Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.’
                          Oscar Wilde

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by VA Dutch View Post

                            That, Fella, is known as the Peter Principle. An alternative view is that people who are sometimes "slightly dangerous" to fellow workers end up being promoted into management - where it is believed they can do less damage.
                            TRUE DAT..............................
                            ‘Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.’
                            Oscar Wilde

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by VA Dutch View Post
                              That, Fella, is known as the Peter Principle. An alternative view is that people who are sometimes "slightly dangerous" to fellow workers end up being promoted into management - where it is believed they can do less damage
                              It's the true the whole world over. I've seen supervisors who are out and out bullies. Supervisors who either timid and/or ignorant of the law ("I'm sorry Sir, we have the power to do that and I think we are fully justified in doing so") and those who choose to ignore it ("Respectfully, Sir, we don't have the power to do that"). Supervisors who will lie on being challenged on what they actually said. Supervisors who are sleeping with their subordinates. Supervisors who go home and stay there whilst ostensibly on duty. Etc. Etc. But, my experience is that d***heads like that are few and far between. It's just that every time they get banged down a rank when they get caught, they always seem to force their way back up again like really tenacious weeds.
                              I'm a little bit waayy, a little bit wooah, a little bit woosh, I'm a geezer.

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                              • #30
                                (Thanks equinox137 was'nt thinking just being honest.) The bad thing is at least 2 in my BLET class itself are already riding the but kissing train ,always up the instructors snaz!
                                Last edited by BLETfun; 04-13-2008, 08:11 PM. Reason: mistake

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