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  • How many of your supervisors snitched their way to the top?

    How many of you work with lowlife spineless supervisors who snitched their way up the chain?

  • #2
    sounds like that to me as well.

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    • #3
      What do you mean "Snitched their way to the top"?
      "...and the taking of a life is murder. And the punishment for murder is.... well it varies from state to state and by race, but...." - Homer J Simpson.

      Police: "Stop and we'll shoot!"
      Dilbert: "Stop AND we'll shoot? If you're gonna shoot, why should we stop?"
      Police: "Well, it would be alot easier for us. The targets at the shooting range don't run."

      R.I.P. Momma Coleman. You may have left our world, but you have NOT left our hearts.

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      • #4
        By "snitched", do you mean "reported officer misconduct?"
        "First of all, then we have to say the American public overwhelmingly voted for socialism when they elected President Obama." - Al Sharpton, March 21, 2010

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        • #5
          hmmmm....by 'snitched' I think he means 'melted down Officers/Deputies badges to make their LT bars'.......I could be wrong though....
          The posts on this forum by this poster are of his personal opinion, and his personal opinion alone

          "Politicians are like diapers. They need to be changed often and for the same reason"

          "We fight not for glory; nor for wealth; nor honor, but only and alone we fight for freedom, which no good man surrenders but with his life"

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          • #6
            As much as I scratched my head at some of the so-called leaders who made captain and beyond at my former department. Rarely, if ever, was that charge ever leveled. Some were cowards. Some had no clue how to be cops. Some really did have brown noses. Some were bookish nerds. But, none were dismissed as having made upper ranks by ratting-out their fellow cops. Sometimes they have been rewarded for their silence, their "I didn't see it," or "I wasn't aware of it" answers while protecting higher-ups who did something stupid.

            There may have been a couple who enjoyed their Internal Affairs time much too much, but even most IA guys I've known, searched for the truth of the matter - resulting in officers cleared of misconduct charges, or charges being changed to a lesser degree.

            So, Mannix, what is the story you really want to tell us?
            Last edited by Kieth M.; 04-11-2008, 03:08 PM. Reason: Added last sentence to first paragraph...
            "You're never fully dressed without a smile."

            Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.

            Three things I know for sure: (1) No bad deed goes unrewarded, (2) No good deed goes unpunished, and (3) It is entirely possible to push the most devoted, loyal and caring person beyond the point where they no longer give a 5h!t.

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            • #7
              You mean there's a way besides hard work and dedication?

              I may have been going about this all wrong...

              M-11
              “All men dream...... But not equally..
              Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find it is vanity;
              but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men,
              for they act their dreams with open eyes to make it possible.....”

              TE Lawrence

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              • #8
                Originally posted by jrichards2522
                It sounds like you have a personal story related to this matter. Please, do share!
                Sorry, wrong. I just see the screw up and move up crowd along with the brown nosers and snitches move up more and more.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Mannix View Post
                  Sorry, wrong. I just see the screw up and move up crowd along with the brown nosers and snitches move up more and more.
                  I can certainly understand that sentiment.
                  "First of all, then we have to say the American public overwhelmingly voted for socialism when they elected President Obama." - Al Sharpton, March 21, 2010

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                  • #10
                    You know the problem I have (Mannix I hope you forgive the semi hijack). I'm a sergeant, and I've been fairly content at my position. I've been around a long time, 25 years, and I've really had no desire to test beyond this level and have to give up the street.
                    But, there are people who used to be patrol officers and work for me who now have one bar and sometimes two. These people, when they worked for me were my biggest problem children. They'd never answer the radio, they'd duck their calls, They'd hide out all night long. On mids you could see the ZZ's circling around their cars.
                    But now they seem to have found religion, and expect, nay demand, others exceed the work level they tried very hard to shirk while they were pushing a cruiser around. The level of hypocrisy astounds sometimes as does revsionist history.
                    "The only means we possess to thank them is to try to be as good an American as they were. We might fall well short of their standard, but there is honor in the effort."

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                    • #11
                      All of our promotons are based on performance on the promotional exam. So you don't have to "snitch" or kiss butt to move up the ladder but you don't have to be worth a crap as a cop either.

                      In fact it seems like the crapper the cop the quicker they are to try to promote so they are no longer exposed to situations they can't handle. Nothing like being told what to do by people that just a couple of moths earlier you were looking at on the street and wondering how/why they are a cop in the 1st place.

                      I have yet to try to promote, nor do I want to yet.
                      Two people can keep a secret if one of them is dead.

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                      • #12
                        I am afraid to say that I saw that once at my last department. An Officer reported "excessive force" on a coworker. I was apart of the inncident but did not witness the act. From talking with other Officers that observed the act, it was not even close to excessive. The perp didn't even file a complaint on the Officer! Well, the rat was promoted and the Officer that was snitched on was fired. This was just one small reason I left the department for another bigger, better department.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Kieth M. View Post
                          B]Sometimes they have been rewarded for their silence, their "I didn't see it," or "I wasn't aware of it" answers while protecting higher-ups who did something stupid. [/B]
                          So, Mannix, what is the story you really want to tell us?
                          +1!!! One of the largest common denominators I've seen recently is the relationship between turning a blind eye to a problem and the appreciation of this by higher ranking management. Many of our middle and even top managers have made a career of:
                          1) Not recognizing problems.
                          2) Not reacting to problems when they are thrust before them.
                          3) Letting someone else deal with the problem when they are forced to see it.
                          4) Letting someone else take "the fall" so liability doesn't affect their career.
                          5) Taking the blame only when they know they're protecting someone who will reward them at a later point in time.

                          I've never been afraid to make a decision, so long as it was reasonable given the alternatives that were apparent at the time. Unfortunately, this seems to be something strongly discouraged by the "new leadership." They seem to prefer getting a call on every little issue, then saying they'll "get back to you later." Of course they don't, which prevents you from doing the job when it needed to be done. They don't have to make a decision, don't have to approve or disapprove your's and can blame you later for either your action or inaction.

                          My response: Unless absolutely necessary, assess the situation and make a decision yourself that you can stand behind. If it's right, you're fine. If it's wrong, management wouldn't protect you anyhow, so you're no worse off by making the decision for yourself.
                          "I'm not fluent in the language of violence, but I know enough to get around in places where it's spoken."

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                          • #14
                            I really don't mind as long as the newly promoted realizes I know my job really well and butter bars along with sergeant stripes doesn't automatically make the person more knowledgeable on the job.

                            We just had a whole slew of sergeants promoted and part of their responsibility involves a considerable amount of desktime. I came on this job to patrol and the idea of sitting behind a desk when in all reality I should be out fighting crime doesn't sit well.
                            Prov 17:17 A friend loveth at all times, and a brother is born for adversity.

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                            • #15

                              As Mahatma Gandhi once said, "There are two groups of people: Those who do the work and those who try to take credit. Try being in the first group, since there will be less competition."

                              Perhaps he was right, no?

                              What it comes down to is that some people forget from where it is they came; and others think that the only way to rise up is upon the backs of others.

                              Could it be the reason why so many cops think that anyone from LT and up must be a politician?

                              The comments above reflect my personal opinion as a private citizen, ordinary motorist and all-around good guy.

                              The aforementioned advice should not be construed to represent any type of professional opinion, legal counsel or other type of instruction with regard to traffic laws, judicial proceedings or official agency policy.

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