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  • Jury Trials? Good or Bad?

    For my class, our teacher is requiring us to do a research paper on some topics she provided. I chose 'jury trials: does the process work to achieve justice?'.

    I am trying to get public opinions on that topic . . . any input you have related to juries would be great. I am just trying to get my 'creative juices' flowing so I can get into the mindset to make an outline for the paper.

    I am sure a lot of you have had experiences (both good and bad) with juries and I would love to hear the stories.

    Thanks in advance.
    'Evil always wins when Good does nothing'-Anonymous

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    Last edited by Tee.Elle.; 08-31-2010, 11:56 AM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by jrichards2522
      Jury trials in America are certainly better than the sham trials in some non-democratic countries. See the movie "Red Corner."
      After you mentioned it, I looked up the storyline of this movie. It sounds like a good movie . . . is it relatively accurate in describing the Chinese legal system?
      'Evil always wins when Good does nothing'-Anonymous

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      • #4
        edit: never mind

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        • #5
          I have always believed in a professional jury system. Go to a Jr. College for about a year with classes that apply to being a juror. Have the Counties hire people with a good salary/civil service benefits. Once hired you would rotate between municipal, superior and civil courts.
          Retired LASD

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          • #6
            Depends.

            A jury is made up of peers...so it depends on the location of the trial.
            This profession is not for people looking for positive reinforcement from the public. Very often it can be a thankless job and you can't desire accolades, because those are not usually forthcoming. Just do your job to the best of your ability and live with the decisions you've made.

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            • #7
              in Harris county, they plead fast to save their butt and miss the needle....
              ‘Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.’
              Oscar Wilde

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              • #8
                I could write for about an hour about the effectiveness of our jury system After 34 years in the New york State Courts, I firmly believe that the current system is the best man can design. Forget the idea of "professional jurors" LEOs would want pros that would only believe them and the defense bar would look for just the opposite and the possibility of the jurors leaning toward the wishes of their paymasters is great.

                I've had to let the guilty walk out of a courtroom and had to jail people I thought were innocent. But my experience has been that juries, selected by both sides, come to the correct verdict in the vast majority of cases. One problem in the system is the lack of professionaslism in the prosecutor's office.

                What you read in the papers or see on TV is just a minute's worth of what the jury sees in a day............watch Law and Order and watch the attorneys sum up a homicide case in 2 minutes. In a real trial a summation would last anywhere from an hour to a day. Evidenciary hearings aren't done in judge's chambers, they can take longer than the actual trial.

                Remember also that what a LEO arrests for has to be proved by the DA. For example, as I have posted before, Attempted Murder is just about the hardest crime to get a conviction on, yet the DA will often bring the charge to mollify the arresting officers.

                I doubt you'll ever find a better more effective criminal justice system than our jury system.

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                • #9
                  As much as I may grumble about some of the 'heads of lettuce' we get as jurors, I dont know that I would want any other system......

                  One problem I do have, is that the jurors tend to want to base their decision on 'feelings' and emotion....rather than logic.....

                  The system (at least in LA) is biased heavily towards the defense....the DA had to convince 12.....the defense only has to convince 1 to get a hung jury......
                  The posts on this forum by this poster are of his personal opinion, and his personal opinion alone

                  "Politicians are like diapers. They need to be changed often and for the same reason"

                  "We fight not for glory; nor for wealth; nor honor, but only and alone we fight for freedom, which no good man surrenders but with his life"

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                  • #10
                    What's the better alternative?
                    "First of all, then we have to say the American public overwhelmingly voted for socialism when they elected President Obama." - Al Sharpton, March 21, 2010

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                    • #11
                      I'm sure LA DEP is aware of the above, JRichards.
                      "First of all, then we have to say the American public overwhelmingly voted for socialism when they elected President Obama." - Al Sharpton, March 21, 2010

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by jrichards2522
                        In criminal jury trials, it's like this, purposefully for several reasons (the list that follows is not exhaustive):

                        1. The concept of innocent until proven guilty.
                        2. The prosecution/state has greater resources than does the defendant.
                        3. As opposed to civil trials, in criminal trials, a defendant's liberty (and possibly life) is at stake.
                        Oh...I know it.....doenst mean we dont b***h about it sometimes though.....hahahaha.....

                        What rubs me the wrong way is all the jurors that the BS they see on CSI ect is real..........and that we actually HAVE all those resources.....

                        Still, it is better than the alternative.....
                        The posts on this forum by this poster are of his personal opinion, and his personal opinion alone

                        "Politicians are like diapers. They need to be changed often and for the same reason"

                        "We fight not for glory; nor for wealth; nor honor, but only and alone we fight for freedom, which no good man surrenders but with his life"

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by jrichards2522
                          Actually, LA DEP, the LAPD does have all the resources you see on CSI, and cases at this department are really solved that quickly! Guess you should've went with the LAPD instead of the Sheriff's Department!
                          Yeah....ok......

                          Cant fool me, since our closest backup when I worked patrol was LAPD Hollywood......

                          I, at least, get to carry a real flashlight....as oppossed to the 'nerf light'....hahahaha

                          On the other hand, stuff MAY get solved quicker, since we are sharing office space at the new crime lab,,,,,
                          The posts on this forum by this poster are of his personal opinion, and his personal opinion alone

                          "Politicians are like diapers. They need to be changed often and for the same reason"

                          "We fight not for glory; nor for wealth; nor honor, but only and alone we fight for freedom, which no good man surrenders but with his life"

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                          • #14
                            Jury trials are esentially a contest to see which lawyer can bring the emotions and such of the jurors to their side. People are too easily persuaded to be in a jury... All it takes is one or two jurors to sway the others.
                            A teacher once told me that the guilty want jury trials, and the innocent want a bench trial.
                            "...and the taking of a life is murder. And the punishment for murder is.... well it varies from state to state and by race, but...." - Homer J Simpson.

                            Police: "Stop and we'll shoot!"
                            Dilbert: "Stop AND we'll shoot? If you're gonna shoot, why should we stop?"
                            Police: "Well, it would be alot easier for us. The targets at the shooting range don't run."

                            R.I.P. Momma Coleman. You may have left our world, but you have NOT left our hearts.

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                            • #15
                              I just watched a jury find a guy not guilty just because they wanted to go home as soon as possible. Originally the jury was 10-2 in favor of "guilty" but the 2 said no matter what we are not changing our minds so the other 10 voted not guilty just so they could go home.

                              What an awsome system!!!!!
                              Two people can keep a secret if one of them is dead.

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