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  • LongRange
    Forum Member
    • Feb 2007
    • 153

    #16
    I never really realized how many cop-haters there were until youtube came about.
    Bizarre! I was just thinking how I never realized how out of control some officers are until I started seeing it pop up on youtube.

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    • Bearcat357
      Banned
      • Mar 2007
      • 18498

      #17
      Originally posted by GWBJR
      No physical presence. As I stated earlier, at one time the requirements for an officer at some departments was
      6'2" or greater, typically an officer within those parameters was an imposing physical presence, do you think the driver would have walked away considering?
      Maybe.....maybe not....one never knows....

      And FYI....in my opinion....just because some dude is 6'0" and above.....doesn't make him suitable to be a LEO just because of his size.....

      That's one of the reasons agencies went away from that non-sense.....

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      • scratched13
        Forum Member
        • Apr 2007
        • 3084

        #18
        Originally posted by retired
        I guess times have changed. We had a ton of people who refused to sign their citation, but I can't remember ever tasing one. Normally we could convince them that if they didn't sign the citation we had no choice but to arrest them. The majority of the time they would sign without any physical force. I didn't see where this guy even tried to convince the motorist to sign. In my opinion he tasered him pretty quick.
        Maybe "back in your day" people were more reasonable. Nowadays, everyone is a roadside lawyer.

        Did you see the same video????? I saw him try to hand the ticket and pen to have him sign. He even verbalized this. Police officers DO NOT have to say pretty pretty pretty please, sign the ticket...... AND I WILL ADD: the cop had a keen sense on this tard. He knew he was going to resist - and he did.

        Great that he DID taser him quick! If he had waited, someone MAY HAVE GOTTEN HURT!
        Space for rent .........

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        • Mabbottusmc
          Forum Member
          • Jun 2007
          • 639

          #19
          In cali, if a person won't sign a ticket you arrest them and take them in to see the judge. He walked away from the officer who was taking him into custody. The officer was alone and I wouldn't want to wrestle on the freeway. I think it was right. If u didn't know what teh officer was doing and why I can see why people get upset.

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          • scratched13
            Forum Member
            • Apr 2007
            • 3084

            #20
            Originally posted by iMarkVideo
            Retired,

            You beat me to it. I have to say I never herd him say what the consequences would be if he refused to sign the ticket. Or tell him he was under arrest. I wonder if that would have changed the situation. I don't know about Utah, here in Virginia, as far as I know, a taser can only be used in the same situation as a fire arm would be used. But the taser is not lethal. Looked like this guy was shot in the back walking away. But what do I know. I'm not a cop.
            That is the stupidest thing that I have read on this website.

            If it is a situation where a firearm can be used ...... why would ANYONE use anything LESS THAN A FIREARM?????????

            We are NOT obligated to tell all of the consequences. He gave him legal and clear commands. He chose not to follow them. He resisted arrest.

            The last bolded comment sums it up real good ....
            Space for rent .........

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            • scratched13
              Forum Member
              • Apr 2007
              • 3084

              #21
              Originally posted by LongRange
              The officer tells him to step out of the vehicle, he does..he follows the officer back pointing rearward asking the officer a question. The officer reaches for the taser, draws down on the guy and tells him to turn around. The guy is obviously startled when he turns toward the officer mid-question and gets a look at the business end of that taser.

              Why did the cop go for the taser before the guy resisted arrest? He refused to sign the ticket, he did not resist arrest until well after the cop went for the taser. He didn't reach for the cuffs, the first thing he reached for is his taser, and that was prior to resisting.
              He's a goner, and he should be.

              The kid was a mouthy jerk, but he doesn't have to sign anything. He can spend some time locked up waiting for a magistrate if he wants.
              he went down like a bag of rocks! funny.
              Why did he grab his taser?????? The suspect signalled his intention to resist arrest: When the officer said turn around, put your hands behind your back - suspect said "No, I am NOT ...." Then the officer went for his taser.
              Space for rent .........

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              • scratched13
                Forum Member
                • Apr 2007
                • 3084

                #22
                Originally posted by GWBJR
                No physical presence. As I stated earlier, at one time the requirements for an officer at some departments was
                6'2" or greater, typically an officer within those parameters was an imposing physical presence, do you think the driver would have walked away considering?
                Yes. "Back in the day" officers didn't have as many "horrible weapons" as police officers do today. He knew what a taser was, but he still did what he wanted - putting them both at risk. Why in the world do you think that just a few inches more in height would have made him do otherwise????
                Space for rent .........

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                • equinox137
                  Far-right libertarian
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 4421

                  #23
                  Originally posted by GWBJR
                  Correct me if I am wrong, all jurisdictions do not require a signature.
                  Ok, but in this case, it was required.
                  "First of all, then we have to say the American public overwhelmingly voted for socialism when they elected President Obama." - Al Sharpton, March 21, 2010

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                  • retired
                    Senior Veteran
                    • Jun 2000
                    • 6503

                    #24
                    Originally posted by scratched13
                    Maybe "back in your day" people were more reasonable. Nowadays, everyone is a roadside lawyer.

                    Did you see the same video????? I saw him try to hand the ticket and pen to have him sign. He even verbalized this. Police officers DO NOT have to say pretty pretty pretty please, sign the ticket...... AND I WILL ADD: the cop had a keen sense on this tard. He knew he was going to resist - and he did.

                    Great that he DID taser him quick! If he had waited, someone MAY HAVE GOTTEN HURT!
                    There were a ton of roadside lawyers when I was working, they aren't new to just your generation. And I am well aware that police officers do not have to say please. Although there have been many times that saying would you please sign the citation, they did, and that was preferable to immediately tasering someone.

                    And if you consider that resisting, I wonder what type of area you work?

                    For the most part, you and I differ on how law enforcement duties should be performed. Myself, from what I saw I don't approve of his tactics, you do, and that's fine.
                    Retired

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                    • Bearcat357
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 18498

                      #25
                      Originally posted by GWBJR
                      Can you say AA
                      American Airlines....Air America.....Alcoholics Anonymous.....Aerol�*neas Argentinas....?

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                      • equinox137
                        Far-right libertarian
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 4421

                        #26
                        Originally posted by retired
                        There were a ton of roadside lawyers when I was working, they aren't new to just your generation. And I am well aware that police officers do not have to say please. Although there have been many times that saying would you please sign the citation, they did, and that was preferable to immediately tasering someone.

                        And if you consider that resisting, I wonder what type of area you work?

                        For the most part, you and I differ on how law enforcement duties should be performed. Myself, from what I saw I don't approve of his tactics, you do, and that's fine.
                        So what would suggest the trooper should have done? Wrestle him down on the freeway?
                        "First of all, then we have to say the American public overwhelmingly voted for socialism when they elected President Obama." - Al Sharpton, March 21, 2010

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                        • scratched13
                          Forum Member
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 3084

                          #27
                          Originally posted by retired
                          There were a ton of roadside lawyers when I was working, they aren't new to just your generation. And I am well aware that police officers do not have to say please. Although there have been many times that saying would you please sign the citation, they did, and that was preferable to immediately tasering someone.

                          And if you consider that resisting, I wonder what type of area you work?:confused:

                          For the most part, you and I differ on how law enforcement duties should be performed. Myself, from what I saw I don't approve of his tactics, you do, and that's fine.
                          While not aggressive resistance, it was resistance nonetheless ...... or back in your day, was it okay for people who were under arrest to just simply walk off?????? At that point, what would you have suggested? He was under arrest - we all know that. Would you have PREFERED that he go hands on with a guy on the side of a HIGHWAY (on the drivers/roads side)???? With the guys one hand still inside his pocket (weapon, maybe)???? Also - with another occupant at the scene??????

                          So, let's say that he goes hands on at this point. HE gets tangled up with the guy. No matter WHO get squished by an oncoming car - the officer pays for it. OR, he gets tangled up and the girl comes out with a gun. OR, I guess the officer could just let him go - cause that is what was going to happen if suspect gets back to the vehicle. I saw some very obvious signals that this guy was twitchy for a speed off.
                          Space for rent .........

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                          • Bearcat357
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 18498

                            #28
                            Originally posted by GWBJR
                            Affirmative Action, there are many that benefitted from affirmative action as it excluded persons of certain ethnicities that did not meet height and weight requirements, they were therefore relaxed benefitting many that do not realize that fact, and are now stating they are against affirmative action in any form.
                            Yeah...hiring all men, 6 foot and above....and letting them beat the hell out of folks worked good back in the 60s and early 70s....but times have changed...

                            The kid was told to stop....he refused....and he got dealt with...end of story.....

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                            • Glider
                              This is my safety, sir.
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 167

                              #29
                              The general public disgusts me. Everybody is "outraged" over this officer's reaction. The driver acted like a tard for maybe a $100 ticket. Now he's going to jail. Just sign the damn thing and move on.

                              Punk had a smart mouth, tryed to tell the cop what was what, and got a strong reply Just hope this trooper's job isn't in jeopardy for DOING his job.
                              "I love the smell of napalm in the morning."

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                              • LongRange
                                Forum Member
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 153

                                #30
                                Scratched,
                                I don't know what video you're watching , but the one linked to Fox News website clearly shows that the officer went for his taser prior to even telling the mouthy kid to 'turn around and put your hands behind your back'.

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