Portland PD?

[phillyrube]

Just spent a week visiting my son in Portland, where he is a brewmaster. Where are the cops? 6 days there, did not see one cop car on the road. Saw more cops in the little towns around Portland, but in the city, not a soul.

Son says that's normal, he never sees them.

[CCCSD]

It is illegal for the police to be visible.

[Aidokea]

What parts of Portland were you in?

I started my law enforcement career with the Portland Police Bureau in 1991, although I retired somewhere else. After I retired, I was recruited to provide armed plainclothes protective services for the television news crews covering the riots in downtown Portland, so I had a working relationship with them.

Liberal voters have "legalized" hard drugs, liberal prosecutors are refusing to prosecute criminals, liberal judges are setting criminals free, cops are not being allowed to defend themselves when violently attacked, and frothing anti-white racist cop-hate commissioner Jo Ann "The Crypt Keeper" Hardesty wants to be put in charge of the police department.

In that political climate, I seriously doubt that anybody does any proactive patrol work or self-initiated cases at all. They answer their radio, respond to EMERGENCY calls for police services, and it's "down periscope" for the rest of each tour of duty. The smart ones retire as fast as they can.

[Aidokea]

The Crypt Keeper:

[tanksoldier]

Just spent a week visiting my son in Portland, where he is a brewmaster. Where are the cops? 6 days there, did not see one cop car on the road. Saw more cops in the little towns around Portland, but in the city, not a soul.

Son says that's normal, he never sees them.

You’re kidding. Why would a cop be visible in Portland?

[just joe]

There is a reason they are offering laterals a $25,000 bonus.

[Aidokea]

There's no way I'd take that.

[phillyrube]

What parts of Portland were you in?

I started my law enforcement career with the Portland Police Bureau in 1991, although I retired somewhere else. After I retired, I was recruited to provide armed plainclothes protective services for the television news crews covering the riots in downtown Portland, so I had a working relationship with them.

Liberal voters have "legalized" hard drugs, liberal prosecutors are refusing to prosecute criminals, liberal judges are setting criminals free, cops are not being allowed to defend themselves when violently attacked, and frothing anti-white racist cop-hate commissioner Jo Ann "The Crypt Keeper" Hardesty wants to be put in charge of the police department.

In that political climate, I seriously doubt that anybody does any proactive patrol work or self-initiated cases at all. They answer their radio, respond to EMERGENCY calls for police services, and it's "down periscope" for the rest of each tour of duty. The smart ones retire as fast as they can.

I stayed in a motel on interstate ave. He works over in Hollywood. Visited the PT boat and the Blueback, hit micros all over town. Homeless everywhere. Dodged a few ****piles on the sidewalks. City provides a pump out service for the derelict campers and small toilets in the middle of the I5 ramps. Guess that's better than more **** in the streets.

[Aidokea]

Did you visit the world's smallest park?

[Levithane]

I visited that city a few years ago. TLDR is what you're seeing is what happens when the liability to police people exceeds the reward of the benefit on doing it. Portland is the only city I have been to where the city seems like a public insane asylum (homeless people screaming everywhere).

That is also the only city I have seen where offenders can throw a molotov in the residential building of a sitting mayor, and face no consequences. Same thing with the people who assaulted and threw urine filled bottles at US marshals, no consequences. I have my own opinions and assumptions of why that is the case, but I dont have any evidence to support them at the moment.

[Aidokea]

I visited that city a few years ago. TLDR is what you're seeing is what happens when the liability to police people exceeds the reward of the benefit on doing it. Portland is the only city I have been to where the city seems like a public insane asylum (homeless people screaming everywhere).

That is also the only city I have seen where offenders can throw a molotov in the residential building of a sitting mayor, and face no consequences. Same thing with the people who assaulted and threw urine filled bottles at US marshals, no consequences. I have my own opinions and assumptions of why that is the case, but I dont have any evidence to support them at the moment.

It was really something during the riots, and I was up to my eyeballs in them.

The rioters torched, looted, and violently attacked, every single night, for months on end.

They barricaded the doors of East Precinct and set it on fire with cops, prisoners, and civilians inside.

One night they chased down a civilian downtown and shot him dead in the street without any verbal exchange, simply because they thought he LOOKED like a Trump voter.

I was protecting the television news crews outside the barricades at the Justice Center, surrounded by the mob, and my PPB buddies texted with me back and forth, but they made it clear to me that if I got attacked, they would not be able to rescue me.

One night, one of the other news crews saw that I was doing a decent job of keeping the mob off of the news crew I was protecting, and so they spontaneously joined us for their protection, with the two camera men standing next to each other but filming in a slightly different "V" angle, so that each camera person was only filming their own reporter as the two reporters stood about ten feet apart.

One night the news crew I was with, wanted to see how close they could get to the epicenter of it all. I got them all the way up to the giant concrete and chain link barricades, right in the middle of the mob, when a rioter just to my left started breaching the chain link with cutters. We started taking some kind of less-lethal munitions from officers above us overlooking the street. I grabbed the talent and her camera guy by their collars, spun around to protect the three of us with the back of my vest, and marched them out of there to a safer location.

I worked the Rodney King riots in Portland in '92, and this was worse.

[Levithane]

https://youtu.be/2cg28QwoqMk

Here's an interesting video on the topic of those riots and "protests". Ed calderon gives a pretty detailed description of what went on.

[Aidokea]

On a lighter note, this is a disturbingly realistic parody of Portland, filmed BEFORE all the poop and needles. It was filmed in the Tom McCall Waterfront Park...which used to be a freeway that ran through downtown until they took it out. I did my mountain bike training there in 1991.

[Levithane]

It was really something during the riots, and I was up to my eyeballs in them.

The rioters torched, looted, and violently attacked, every single night, for months on end.

They barricaded the doors of East Precinct and set it on fire with cops, prisoners, and civilians inside.

One night they chased down a civilian downtown and shot him dead in the street without any verbal exchange, simply because they thought he LOOKED like a Trump voter.

I was protecting the television news crews outside the barricades at the Justice Center, surrounded by the mob, and my PPB buddies texted with me back and forth, but they made it clear to me that if I got attacked, they would not be able to rescue me.

One night, one of the other news crews saw that I was doing a decent job of keeping the mob off of the news crew I was protecting, and so they spontaneously joined us for their protection, with the two camera men standing next to each other but filming in a slightly different "V" angle, so that each camera person was only filming their own reporter as the two reporters stood about ten feet apart.

One night the news crew I was with, wanted to see how close they could get to the epicenter of it all. I got them all the way up to the giant concrete and chain link barricades, right in the middle of the mob, when a rioter just to my left started breaching the chain link with cutters. We started taking some kind of less-lethal munitions from officers above us overlooking the street. I grabbed the talent and her camera guy by their collars, spun around to protect the three of us with the back of my vest, and marched them out of there to a safer location.

I worked the Rodney King riots in Portland in '92, and this was worse.

My personal opinion is that whole thing when that occurred, it was a funded orchestrated attempt to undermine the federal institution. IE make use of the derelicts of society to riot, cause mayhem, etc. The vast majority of the people who were arrested had priors, along with them being habitual drug users. There was also a quick turn around of the offenders posting bail from lord knows where the money came from. The whole event royally angered me because I met some of the people at the court house years back, and they're decent people who didn't deserve to get that sort of treatment. The response from some of our elected officials was disgraceful, IE referring to the officers at the court house as "storm troopers". The US Marshals are federally mandated to defend court institutions, and to treat them that way for just doing their job is ridiculous. And on another note there were people who were showing up with signs for saying "mom's against -blank-". Im sorry but if anyone thinks actual mothers who have families to take care of were showing up late at night to a volatile situation at that courthouse to "protest", is a naive idiot.

I can't comprehend why the mayor of that city would even continue to be soft on that sort of behavior, when his residential building was lit on fire around the same time. In fact he went in person to try negotiating with these people and was obviously treated in a fashion he probably didn't expect.

[CCCSD]

That mayor and all council members should Self Select.

[angeredmgmt]

My daughter and her husband have been living in Portland for the last few years, and we haven't been up to visit. My wife and I will be retiring this year, so it looks like we'll make it up there before the years is out. They moved from Austin because they wanted the full lefty experience, which I'm sure they are getting in abundance. My daughter is a social worker, and her husband sells dope at a dispensary, so it appears they are living the life.

Reports of Austin have similar accounts as Portland, but not to the extent. I live about an hour away, and Austin isn't as bad as reports have depicted it. I'm hoping Portland will be similar in that the anarchy is more concentrated in the more urban areas, leaving the 'burbs a little buffer of protection. We will just have to see for ourselves.

[Aidokea]

We've been to Austin too. Austin is like Disneyland compared to Portland.

Stay off the Max trains- the city decided that fare enforcement is racist, so the trains are full of mentally ill drug-addicted homeless street alcoholics, and the trains transport them all the way into the surrounding communities. The last time I rode the Max, I almost had to shoot two different offenders between Felony Flats and Clackamas. No more after that.

[Ratatatat]

I'm hoping Portland will be similar in that the anarchy is more concentrated in the more urban areas

A friend who lived in eastern Oregon died last year. On the route to his funeral I flew into Bend/Redmond (three hours from Portland and across the cascade mountains). As the plane descended towards the runway, I looked down and saw a huge tent city in the sagebrush. Later in Bend I saw numerous old RVs parked along roads, surrounded by piles of trash and debris. So it doesn't look like permanent camping is confined to the big city.

The real estate market has gone absolutely spastic in Oregon over the last 20 years. What was once affordable is now riduculous. Like this modest 1,100 square foot home in Bend. Sold for $128K in 2004; now on the market for half a mil. I'm not excusing the hordes of people squatting in the bushes and living in tents; just saying the working class can't afford a monthly nut of $5K.

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This week, the mayor of Portland announced that new rules would apply to the hundreds of camps in Portland, like no more daytime fires and tents on sidewalks, so we'll see if things improve. Probably helps that the city will no longer hand out free tents and tarps....

Portland to Crack Down on Homeless Camping following Legal Settlement | National Review