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    I was just wondering if anyone would be able to give me some insight on if my previous disqualification from the PSP selection process would hinder future applications with them? In 2019 I made all the way to the background portion of the process and in December recieved an email that I was disqualified for falsification of applicant package. The only issues the background investigator found were jobs i did not list in the 2019 packet that I had previously listed in previous years applications.

  • #2
    Disqualified means disqualified. Lying is the kiss of death in our profession. Find another line of work.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by -ogre- View Post
      I was just wondering if anyone would be able to give me some insight on if my previous disqualification from the PSP selection process would hinder future applications with them? In 2019 I made all the way to the background portion of the process and in December recieved an email that I was disqualified for falsification of applicant package. The only issues the background investigator found were jobs i did not list in the 2019 packet that I had previously listed in previous years applications.
      Oh, and saved...

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      • #4
        You’ll need to provide more details for real help, but it sounds like the BI found info about jobs that you chose to omit for reasons unshared, correct?

        BIs have the ability to dig up and find most Anything that’s been documented.

        What did you omit and why?

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        • -ogre-
          -ogre- commented
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          They were very old jobs that I simply forgot to list, we added them to the packet (that was submitted to Harrisburg) via addendum. I ask the BI if this was an issue and he told me there was no reason he thought I wouldn't go to the academy.

      • #5
        The ones he was fired from Im betting…
        Last edited by CCCSD; 05-05-2022, 11:47 AM.

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        • #6
          I’ll omit these bad ones, they’ll never know,……….

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          • Aidokea
            Aidokea commented
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            Lol.......

        • #7
          Originally posted by -ogre- View Post
          I was just wondering if anyone would be able to give me some insight on if my previous disqualification from the PSP selection process would hinder future applications with them? In 2019 I made all the way to the background portion of the process and in December recieved an email that I was disqualified for falsification of applicant package. The only issues the background investigator found were jobs i did not list in the 2019 packet that I had previously listed in previous years applications.
          How many times have you applied to PSP? If you've been disqualified more than once particularly for falsification of your background paperwork (which in itself is a crime, unsworn falsification) then you will probably not be hired by them. Also with the passage of Act 57 and the various other issues that came because of the BS out of East Pittsburgh and George Floyd, you're going to be up poops creek without a paddle.
          I don't answer recruitment messages....

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          • tanksoldier
            tanksoldier commented
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            So you didn’t even bother to look at your previous application and tell them the same thing the second time you told them the first time?

            Jeebus, dude…. Did you turn the computer on yourself today, or did somebody help you?

          • orlandofed5-0
            orlandofed5-0 commented
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            Unfortunately, IMO, you will probably never be hired by PSP. You can try for a municipal department or paying for your act 120.

          • -ogre-
            -ogre- commented
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            Appreciate that feedback, currently employed by municipal PD. Would much rather work for the state, but I appreciate your feedback Orlandofed5-0

          • tanksoldier
            tanksoldier commented
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            Wait, I missed this part. Does your current department know you lied on your PSP application?

        • #8
          OK, so you listed jobs on one personal history statement, then you left them off a second PHS while signing the statement at the end attesting that it was accurate.

          As far as anyone is concerned, you falsified the second PHS. As others have said, that's the kiss of death in this profession.
          Going too far is half the pleasure of not getting anywhere

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          • #9
            Originally posted by -ogre- View Post
            I was just wondering if anyone would be able to give me some insight on if my previous disqualification from the PSP selection process would hinder future applications with them? In 2019 I made all the way to the background portion of the process and in December recieved an email that I was disqualified for falsification of applicant package. The only issues the background investigator found were jobs i did not list in the 2019 packet that I had previously listed in previous years applications.
            Paragraphs, dude...paragraphs...

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            • -ogre-
              -ogre- commented
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              I am here for advice and insight, not a lesson in writing.

            • tanksoldier
              tanksoldier commented
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              You’ll take what you’re given or you can look for help elsewhere.

              Insight: Nobody can help you if we can’t read what you write.

              You lied on your application, you’ll likely be a DQ with PSP and anyone who checks with them. BIs email each other lists: have any of these people ever applied with you, do you have any cases with them, etc.

              Advice: Look into other careers.

              I heard McD’s pays well.
              Last edited by tanksoldier; 05-05-2022, 08:22 PM.

          • #10
            Originally posted by -ogre- View Post
            I was just wondering if anyone would be able to give me some insight on if my previous disqualification from the PSP selection process would hinder future applications with them? In 2019 I made all the way to the background portion of the process and in December recieved an email that I was disqualified for falsification of applicant package. The only issues the background investigator found were jobs i did not list in the 2019 packet that I had previously listed in previous years applications.
            Your attitude isn’t helping.

            FAIL.

            BK will let you have it your way.

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            • -ogre-
              -ogre- commented
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              Thanks for the insight, very helpful

          • #11
            For future reference, keep a copy of all future apps on file.

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            • -ogre-
              -ogre- commented
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              My first was from 2015, so I totally forgot what I had put down.

            • Bing_Oh
              Bing_Oh commented
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              I graduated from the academy in the late 90's. I still have a copy of my first application (with notes on subsequent job date ranges), along with paper copies of all my training certificates.

            • Aidokea
              Aidokea commented
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              Lol. The SPH I filled out when I got hired by the Portland Police Bureau in 1991, is the same information I'd put on an application for a job today...if I actually needed a job, which I don't, because I retired honorably from a law-enforcement career spanning 30 years, so now I have a big fat tax-free government retirement pension and free medical for life, because I do not suffer from the same integrity problems that you do.

            • tanksoldier
              tanksoldier commented
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              If it was the truth, how could you forget it? People forget what lie they told, and to who, not the truth.
              Last edited by tanksoldier; 05-05-2022, 08:22 PM.

          • #12
            That’s the reason for keeping app copies,……consistency.

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            • #13
              Originally posted by -ogre- View Post
              I am here for advice and insight, not a lesson in writing.
              We write for a living, astronaut.

              As my brother CCCSD has already pointed out, your attitude would have prevented you from getting hired in law enforcement anyway.

              And as my brother tanksoldier has already pointed out, you don't get to choose our responses to your posts.

              But hey, the world needs ditch diggers...

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              • #14
                Originally posted by NolaT View Post
                For future reference, keep a copy of all future apps on file.
                Keep a copy of his lies…

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                • #15
                  Originally posted by Aidokea View Post

                  We write for a living, astronaut.

                  As my brother CCCSD has already pointed out, your attitude would have prevented you from getting hired in law enforcement anyway.

                  And as my brother tanksoldier has already pointed out, you don't get to choose our responses to your posts.

                  But hey, the world needs ditch diggers...
                  Lol, I hope you enjoy the view from up on your high horse.

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