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  • New gun control proposal

    Compliance is un-American.

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-...-bill/127/text

  • #2
    This is DOA...there's no way it would survive in the courts if by some miracle it was passed into law. Registration of all firearms and ammo with the Federal government? A requirement to obtain a federal firearms license to possess or purchase firearms or ammo (after obtaining a background check, psych exam, training course, and obtaining what insurance the government believes is adequate)? An $800 fee? A 10-round mag limit? The California-definition of "military style weapon"?

    Somebody in Congress doesn't realize that the People don't need the government's permission to exert a Constitutional right...
    "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."
    -Friedrich Nietzsche

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Bing_Oh View Post
      This is DOA...there's no way it would survive in the courts if by some miracle it was passed into law. Registration of all firearms and ammo with the Federal government? A requirement to obtain a federal firearms license to possess or purchase firearms or ammo (after obtaining a background check, psych exam, training course, and obtaining what insurance the government believes is adequate)? An $800 fee? A 10-round mag limit? The California-definition of "military style weapon"?

      Somebody in Congress doesn't realize that the People don't need the government's permission to exert a Constitutional right...
      Oh, did you dig into the penalties?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by krinkiboi2020 View Post
        Fu[k that noise...
        Last edited by Aidokea; 02-02-2021, 06:57 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Krinkiboi2020 View Post

          Oh, did you dig into the penalties?
          I did.

          And it not only bans magazines over 10 rounds (with no provision for "grandfathering" existing standard-capacity magazines), it also bans .50 caliber ammo.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Krinkiboi2020 View Post
            Oh, did you dig into the penalties?
            Oh, i saw. They're nothing special...anywhere from $5k-$150k fines and 5-25 years in prison.
            "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."
            -Friedrich Nietzsche

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            • #7
              Video for the reading-averse...
               

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Bing_Oh View Post
                This is DOA...there's no way it would survive in the courts if by some miracle it was passed into law.
                Severability -- if parts of the law can stand separately, courts can only strike the unconstitutional parts. Much of it would stand.

                Meanwhile, each part courts would strike would directly map to somebody who took a risk breaking the law (and probably had to front legal fees), hoping the courts would see things his way.

                I'd rather see it die long before making it to the courts.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Bing_Oh View Post
                  This is DOA...there's no way it would survive in the courts if by some miracle it was passed into law. Registration of all firearms and ammo with the Federal government? A requirement to obtain a federal firearms license to possess or purchase firearms or ammo (after obtaining a background check, psych exam, training course, and obtaining what insurance the government believes is adequate)? An $800 fee? A 10-round mag limit? The California-definition of "military style weapon"?

                  Somebody in Congress doesn't realize that the People don't need the government's permission to exert a Constitutional right...
                  Yeah, and what if the government's "background check" reveals that I registered and voted in opposition to the current regime?

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                  • #10
                    The radical left wants to pack the Supreme Court.

                    Pass the law, pack the Court with extremists...game over.

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                    • #11
                      It would seem that the powers that be want Lexington and Concord. Well, this is how you get Lexington and Concord.

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                      • #12
                        Even in a democratic controlled Congress and White House this a nonstarter. Those folks still owe a vote or 2 from lobbyists (cough--bribe) to the NRA or another group that buys votes on legislation. This is quite possibly the most ridiculous Bill I've seen came from any legislative body, state local or federal. And Illinois just passed a PD reform bill that was anything but reform but punitive in nature to the police.
                        I would never support a bill like this. It's crazy that the feds feel they can do this. Some folks are going to lose their minds. Even the few who don't like guns will not dig this bill.
                        Last edited by scotty_appleton814; 02-03-2021, 07:25 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Sounds like it's time for 3C to pass out some shine boxes.......
                          Last edited by PtownVAMike; 02-04-2021, 01:27 PM.
                          It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.

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                          • #14
                            If there is one thing everyone in this forum will agree on, its that we are governed by officials who don't know a single thing about guns or the laws regulating them that are already on the books.

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                            • PtownVAMike
                              PtownVAMike commented
                              Editing a comment
                              I think that lawmakers need to receive periodic refresher sessions on the laws they have passed so that they memorize all the intricate details of those laws. That might help to reduce legal redundancy.

                            • scotty_appleton814
                              scotty_appleton814 commented
                              Editing a comment
                              I agree with you Ptown

                          • #15
                            Everyone keep your pants on. This is not a new proposal. It's the exact same bill that was introduced last year as H.R.4081.

                            It didn't go anywhere then, and it's not going anywhere now -- even with the reconfiguration of Congress.

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