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  • Ex Army MP
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    Originally posted by itnstalln View Post
    People continue to develop and mature (most at least) into their 20's but if they raise the drinking age to 25 because because of that, do they raise the voting age, age to join the armed forces, age to be tried as adults? And should they raise the age of tobacco too then, or what about the age required to responsibly drive a 3500lb vehicle? It's kind of like saying your an adult but you have a 3 year probation period before we give you full adult privileges
    I think the distinction to be made is that alcohol breaks down your inhibitions and can make a less than mature person even less mature. The risks in voting and in serving the military at 18 are a lot less. In fact, it seems rather obvious by the results of our last presedential election that we could have used more 18 year olds voting. I couldn't imagine raising the age to 21.

    As for raising the age to 25, what would be the point? By that time you're almost past the stage of partying with friends and your getting ready for marriage and kids. Then again, perhaps that is MADD's goal. Maybe they are hoping people will never start and it becomes some sort of de facto prohibition.

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  • irishdep
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    DRUNKS AGAINST MAD MOTHERS? Do you guys have t-shirts or refrigerator magnets, I love refrigerator magnets.

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  • itnstalln
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    Originally posted by Entre Nous View Post
    I understand your question about what makes 21 a magic number. When the drinking age was 18, at least it coincided with the age of majority. Age 25 makes sense too, because they say the human brain doesn't fully mature until then. But I too have always wondered what makes the age of 21 so special, other than tradition. Yet, as you say, making people wait until 25 does seem unenforceable.
    People continue to develop and mature (most at least) into their 20's but if they raise the drinking age to 25 because because of that, do they raise the voting age, age to join the armed forces, age to be tried as adults? And should they raise the age of tobacco too then, or what about the age required to responsibly drive a 3500lb vehicle? It's kind of like saying your an adult but you have a 3 year probation period before we give you full adult privileges

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  • Entre Nous
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    Originally posted by equinox137 View Post
    All due respect Entre, MADD has become just another temperance organization in the vein of Carrie Nation...
    I respect your feeling on that, equinox. I'm guess I'm more taking issue with people using the names of organizations in their screen names. That really rubbed me the wrong way.

    I understand your question about what makes 21 a magic number. When the drinking age was 18, at least it coincided with the age of majority. Age 25 makes sense too, because they say the human brain doesn't fully mature until then. But I too have always wondered what makes the age of 21 so special, other than tradition. Yet, as you say, making people wait until 25 does seem unenforceable.

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  • ateamer
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    There's a new group out there - DAMM. Drunks Against Mad Mothers.

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  • Ex Army MP
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    Originally posted by equinox137 View Post
    All due respect Entre, MADD has become just another temperance organization in the vein of Carrie Nation...

    I recently saw a billboard posted by MADD advocating raising the drinking age to 25 ....Drinking age laws are about as unenforceable as they get now, imagine what that a nightmare that would be.

    That leads me to a legal question: if MADD succeeded in getting the drinking age raised to 25, I would bet dollars to donuts that it would get thrown out of court the next day over 14th Amendment issues....If that's the case, then what makes 21 such a magic number?
    Good point. However, age, unlike race and gender, is not a protected class under the 14th amendment. The 14th amendment calls for equal protection under the law but the court only applies the "strict scrutiny" test to certain classes, particularly race. With other classes they only apply the " rational basis" test and great deference is afforded to the legislature. While 21 passes the test I'd have a hard time believing that 25 would.

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  • equinox137
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    All due respect Entre, MADD has become just another temperance organization in the vein of Carrie Nation...

    I recently saw a billboard posted by MADD advocating raising the drinking age to 25 ....Drinking age laws are about as unenforceable as they get now, imagine what that a nightmare that would be.

    That leads me to a legal question: if MADD succeeded in getting the drinking age raised to 25, I would bet dollars to donuts that it would get thrown out of court the next day over 14th Amendment issues....If that's the case, then what makes 21 such a magic number?

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  • Entre Nous
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    Here it is, equinox.

    http://forums.officer.com/forums/sho...+possession%22

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  • equinox137
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    Where is this thread?

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  • Entre Nous
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    Originally posted by PhilipCal View Post
    Don't think she really liked the replies, but believe she's gone. At least for now.
    Glad to see that.

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  • PhilipCal
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    Originally posted by Entre Nous View Post
    I would just like to say that I too am a MADD volunteer, and I would absolutely never use the MADD acronym as part of my screen name on a forum, or speak "as a...MADD member" as though I had a right to consider myself a representative of that organization.

    I would especially not do so if I intended to question the actions of police officers, and suggest that they were "contributing to minors". MADD tries to have a good relationship with law enforcement and does not need rogue members going around acting as you are. I'm offended and digusted, and I've complained to O.com about your use of MADD in your screen name.
    I believe we pretty well answered the lady's questions on her original thread. Don't think she really liked the replies, but believe she's gone. At least for now.

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  • itnstalln
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    Originally posted by Entre Nous View Post
    Now she's telling a female officer to change her tampon. I can see that my disgust was well placed.
    Somebody drank too much hateraide

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  • mavriktu
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    Add another ,for the bad post thing.I had to do it as I am a charter member of DAMM (drunks against mad mothers)- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------awww dont get your panties in a wad Entre I was just kidding.

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  • Smurfette_76
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    I have been a bit testy lately, EN

    I complained on her as well.

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  • Entre Nous
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    True.

    Now she's telling a female officer to change her tampon. I can see that my disgust was well placed.

    I just hope people remember that Report Bad Post button at the bottom.

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