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  • Kpdpipes
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    Originally posted by Raiden View Post
    That is PDs policy, not the law, two different animals.

    Now I believe you said, to move along, please, you first, I insist. . .

    ;-)
    Originally posted by scratched13 View Post
    There is NO LAW requiring police officers on the street to say jack shizoly to a curious spectator. Unless I am missing something .....

    The "Move Along" was directed at the hypothetical Newsie... usually accompanied by "Snapperhead" or some other appropriate adjective...
    Last edited by Kpdpipes; 06-02-2007, 07:08 AM.

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  • LeanG
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    Ignore them. If an arrest is being made, and you start getting a crowd, drive around the block and have your partner sit on the car until the wrecker gets there. I've done that on Miami Beach during the Memorial Day festivities. It takes a couple of minutes to connect the bracelets, pat the violator down, put him in the back of the car and leave. The Arrest form can be filled out anywhere. It's hard to respond to questions with the windows up

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  • scratched13
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    Originally posted by Raiden View Post
    That is PDs policy, not the law, two different animals.

    Now I believe you said, to move along, please, you first, I insist. . .

    ;-)
    There is NO LAW requiring police officers on the street to say jack shizoly to a curious spectator. Unless I am missing something .....

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  • Raiden
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    Originally posted by Kpdpipes View Post
    They get if from an official spokesperson for the PD.. I, by Policy am NOT permitted to answer any of those questions..Now move along, you're blocking this sidewalk for other pedestrians...
    That is PDs policy, not the law, two different animals.

    Now I believe you said, to move along, please, you first, I insist. . .

    ;-)

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  • Kpdpipes
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    Originally posted by Raiden View Post
    I disagree, if it involves LE and an arrest, it is public information. How do you think the suspect's name gets printed in newspaper in the morning. . .
    They get if from an official spokesperson for the PD.. I, by Policy am NOT permitted to answer any of those questions..Now move along, you're blocking this sidewalk for other pedestrians...

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    Originally posted by Raiden View Post
    I disagree, if it involves LE and an arrest, it is public information. How do you think the suspect's name gets printed in newspaper in the morning. . .
    It is a great way to turn the tables on a "I know my rights" type of person and shut them down every time.

    And thanks, scratched13. My sentiments exactly.

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  • scratched13
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    Originally posted by Raiden View Post
    I disagree, if it involves LE and an arrest, it is public information. How do you think the suspect's name gets printed in newspaper in the morning. . .
    I disagree. They have the right to it if they go to court and sit in the courtroom. Screw them otherwise.

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  • Raiden
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    Originally posted by IMachU View Post
    Ya know, if someone asked me a bunch of questions about a stop I made, I would tell them, "Do you want me to voilate the right to privacy of the person I stopped? No, I don't think so. Ask them if they want their business spread all over the internet. If they do, they can tell you what happened. Have a nice day....er.....drive safely."
    I disagree, if it involves LE and an arrest, it is public information. How do you think the suspect's name gets printed in newspaper in the morning. . .

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    Ya know, if someone asked me a bunch of questions about a stop I made, I would tell them, "Do you want me to voilate the right to privacy of the person I stopped? No, I don't think so. Ask them if they want their business spread all over the internet. If they do, they can tell you what happened. Have a nice day....er.....drive safely."

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  • BlackOp
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    As long as they don't mind the cop surveilling them back

    Doesn't the average driver make a mistake every 30 seconds? Be a loooong night.

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  • cc_chiller
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    I totally agree that they DO have the right to film as long as they are not interfering. And in most cases they have the right to come over to an officer after a stop or incident is over and ask questions (the officer doesn’t necessarily have to answer though). If they are filming me, they aren't going to catch me doing anything wrong (except for the occassional honest mistake).

    Honestly it still irks me though, mainly because of their motives. They are trying to catch the police doing something wrong. Usually there is nothing to catch, so sometimes they will try and instigate it. I have heard of several cases where they do try and intentionally aggravate the officer, or get in the middle of something that they shouldn’t.

    It’s not uncommon for some of the videos to end up on you-tube or other internet sites incorrectly touted as “brutality caught on tape” or something similar.

    If I picked some random person on the street and started following them around with a video camera trying to catch them doing something wrong, asking them annoying questions the whole time, it wouldn’t take most people long to lose their temper big time! But as officers, we have to just calmly live with it.
    Last edited by cc_chiller; 05-31-2007, 09:13 PM.

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  • grog18b
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    What would I do? Simple. Smile and wave. Ignore them, and give them nothing. They wait for and desire some sort of reaction from us. Best to just mind your manners, always assume they are watching, and conduct yourself professionally at all times. They can tape all they want, but don't get in my way.

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  • fair witness
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    Originally posted by ThursCo View Post
    I don't know. I live in a "hippy" town and there are quite a few "cop watch" activists running around. Their favorite thing to gather around is when cops look like they are arresting a dangerous suspect. Not too long ago they had complaints because officers told them they had to leave the area and when they didn't they were arrested. Why? Because the officers (3 of them) had guns drawn and 2 suspects on the ground and had already pulled a firearm off of one of them. When the officers instructed the people to backup because the guy was armed they responded with, "I see 3 armed people right now and I think they need to put their weapons away." you can imagine that went over well.

    So they got upset that they were arrested. I suppose they would have sued the city if they would have been shot had the situation turned bad. "cop watch" folks need to choose their battles and stay out of the dangerous situations.
    100% agreed

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  • Raiden
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    I don't see anything wrong with watching/recording, however, like it was mentioned above, when you start obstructing the LEO's ability to perform their duty, than definitely there is a problem and that person should be arrested for being stupid, obstructing and putting the officers safety at risk.

    On the other hand, if the John Q. Public from Whatever Watch starts recording and is obviously away from the action and not obstructing, let them record all they want; the LEO has nothing to complain about; it is their right to watch.

    It is obvious that the LAPD and the media are way out of touch. Something needs to change because more and more each day, LEOs are being made like animals with a badge.I can understand that there are some bad apples out there, but, they should not let it ruin it for every PD out there.

    Oh well. . .
    Last edited by Raiden; 05-31-2007, 07:26 PM. Reason: grammar errors

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  • ThursCo
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    I don't know. I live in a "hippy" town and there are quite a few "cop watch" activists running around. Their favorite thing to gather around is when cops look like they are arresting a dangerous suspect. Not too long ago they had complaints because officers told them they had to leave the area and when they didn't they were arrested. Why? Because the officers (3 of them) had guns drawn and 2 suspects on the ground and had already pulled a firearm off of one of them. When the officers instructed the people to backup because the guy was armed they responded with, "I see 3 armed people right now and I think they need to put their weapons away." you can imagine that went over well.

    So they got upset that they were arrested. I suppose they would have sued the city if they would have been shot had the situation turned bad. "cop watch" folks need to choose their battles and stay out of the dangerous situations.

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