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  • #46
    Originally posted by NOLA2005 View Post

    I went to my local store and people were freaking out, buying whatever they could get they’re hands on. Knowing human nature, I went three weeks ago and stocked up on dry goods, various meats, bottled water and the holy grail of disasters, toilet paper. I’m good until June.
    Went by the Wally world to get a bike part. Produce section looked good, meat section looked good. Chips aisle looked like Sherman's March through Georgia. Same with the cold and flu aisle, the locusts had attacked.

    Unbelievable.

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    • #47


      No toilet paper in my area, however plenty of malls.

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      • emtguy89
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        The rubber pulling on the hairs is gonna hurt too much

      • NOLA2005
        NOLA2005 commented
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        But after the first time it should be smoooth sailing!
        Last edited by NOLA2005; 03-15-2020, 07:39 PM.

    • #48
      “In around 2020 a severe pneumonia-like illness will spread throughout the globe, attacking the lungs and the bronchial tubes and resisting all known treatments. Almost more baffling than the illness itself will be the fact that it will suddenly vanish as quickly as it arrived, attack again 10 years later, and then disappear completely,” - Sylvia Browne
      Definitely interesting to see this today. Who knows ....

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      • #49
        South Korea data is showing that young people are asymptomatic carriers. Everything needs to get locked down. All across the country. Only way to slow it down. NYC is gonna overun on hospital beds in a week. You either do it now or you do it later. One choice is gonna be less painful in the long run. Just my opinion.

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        • #50
          Originally posted by iconoclaste View Post
          South Korea data is showing that young people are asymptomatic carriers. Everything needs to get locked down. All across the country. Only way to slow it down. NYC is gonna overun on hospital beds in a week. You either do it now or you do it later. One choice is gonna be less painful in the long run. Just my opinion.
          You can't just arbitrarily "lock everything down"...you're talking about suspending the Constitution for a souped-up flu bug.
          "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."
          -Friedrich Nietzsche

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          • #51
            My main concern is where is the government going to get the money for these small business/hourly worker bailouts?

            I'm afraid that layoffs/furloughs of employees including public safety could be coming. Or that some bean counter decides that with cities mostly closed we can reduce the number of patrols and then keep them reduced after this ends because "nothing bad happened"

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            • #52
              Originally posted by Bing_Oh View Post

              You can't just arbitrarily "lock everything down"...you're talking about suspending the Constitution for a souped-up flu bug.
              Spanish "souped up" flu killed 675,000 Americans in less than a year. By locking down, I mean common sense measures that will help to flatten the curve. Gotta try to stop hospitals being overrun.

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              • PR723
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                Common sense is a flower that doesn't grow in everyone's garden.

            • #53
              RE: Locking this country down. Yes, the Constitution can be suspended to deal with a souped up bug. The Constitution is suspended all the time for serious stuff- warrantless entry into a home for a domestic, the Carrol doctrine/automobile exception, border authority searches, yelling fire in a crowded theatre, etc. As we are witnessing right now, state and local governments have an arsenal of tools to shut communities under health and public safety laws.

              Could Martial Law be imposed at a national level? It could but I think the states/locals will handle it. However, the sovcit/III%er sites I monitor sure seem to think US military and blue helmeted UN troops are mobilizing, fixing to take control...

              So... I've had a hard time deciphering what the real deal is with this virus and getting realistic, unhyped information on where this train is heading. I dismiss most of what Potus says because I don't think he understands the depth and sprawl of this, despite claims last week of spontaneous expertise. Let's be honest... he's a bullsh*tter, and I don't say that in a derogatory sense, because bullsh*tters can be loads of fun to hang with and make great salesmen. But this isn't the time for bullsh*t anymore.

              Today's Washington Post has the best "Here's the Real Deal" article I've seen so far. In a nutshell:

              -40%-70% of the world's population will get the COVID-19 bug in the first wave (next 6-12 months).

              -Death rate will be 1 in a 1000 of those infected, or 170,000 Americans.

              -Subsequent waves will happen, with less fatalities because there are less vulnerable people (they died in earlier waves) and because people begin to build immunities and vaccinations are introduced.

              -Eventually it just becomes another No Big Deal virus. Eventually.

              https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...96f_story.html

              Terrell County Deputy: It's a mess, ain't it, sheriff?

              Sheriff: If it ain't, it'll do 'til the mess gets here..

              No Country For Old Men

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              • #54
                Here are my takeaways at this point:

                -Those who are 70+ with pre-existing conditions: 50/50 chance this next year is your last but the low dirty truth is you've had one foot on a banana peel and one foot in the grave for some time. Now is the time to make final arrangements and preferences known so your children don't have to decide to bury or cremate you. Now is the time to get those final bucket list items crossed off, minus anything that involves international travel or large crowds.

                -Everyone else: The hysteria will continue to build over the next several weeks until society recognizes that life has to go on. Eventually things will return to normal, or a new normal. Like people will stop shaking hands and instead bow, salute, or point to acknowledge each other. Bars, theatres and stadiums will begin to fill but are kept at half capacity. Some will even retrofit seating so 100,000 people aren't packed into a stadium.

                In the meanwhile, everyone here start rocking Vitamin D and C tabs and focus on having strong immunities. Exercise daily, eat better, and get enough sleep. Turn off the news because every night for the next few weeks is going to be nothing but disease and death but the reality is almost everyone is going to get this sucker but very few will die from it. And hope the masses don't panic any further than TP hoarding because the scary thing isn't this virus but a scared, armed, and hungry populous freaking out over it....
                Terrell County Deputy: It's a mess, ain't it, sheriff?

                Sheriff: If it ain't, it'll do 'til the mess gets here..

                No Country For Old Men

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                • #55
                  Originally posted by Ratatatat View Post
                  RE: Locking this country down. Yes, the Constitution can be suspended to deal with a souped up bug. The Constitution is suspended all the time for serious stuff- warrantless entry into a home for a domestic, the Carrol doctrine/automobile exception, border authority searches, yelling fire in a crowded theatre, etc. As we are witnessing right now, state and local governments have an arsenal of tools to shut communities under health and public safety laws.

                  Could Martial Law be imposed at a national level? It could but I think the states/locals will handle it. However, the sovcit/III%er sites I monitor sure seem to think US military and blue helmeted UN troops are mobilizing, fixing to take control...
                  This isn't a question of CAN the Constitution be suspended (it can), but whether it's realistic.

                  Yes, martial law CAN technically be enacted nationwide...but it would (as far as I know) be historically unprecedented. You're talking about removing one of the most fundamental rights (the right to freedom of movement) from the entire American population. Essentially, you're talking about a 4th Amendment seizure of 327 MILLION people over a disease whose mortality rate is not fully understood in the context of a First World country with an advanced health care infrastructure. Comparing the relatively limited Constitution restrictions and exceptions that you've noted to that kind of suspension of rights is like comparing a single Black Cat firecracker with the entire nuclear arsenal of the United States.

                  Of all the outlandish doomsday scenarios that end in a second US Civil War, a suspension of rights of that magnitude would probably be the most likely to actually end that way.
                  "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."
                  -Friedrich Nietzsche

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                  • #56
                    Like I said, I don't think Martial Law will occur. But I think we may see something like what's happening in Spain, where all non-essential business shuts down for three weeks and the only thing open are grocery stores, gas stations, and doctors offices. Why? To keep the curve of first wave patients lower.

                    HOWEVER, if the population goes berserker over this and rioting and looting occurs because millions can't get food and militias rise up because this is the Boogaloo moment they've been waiting for and criminals take advantage of the mayhem by creating more mayhem, well, like a self-fulfilling apocalyptic prophecy, then I could see the potential for full blown Martial Law...
                    Last edited by Ratatatat; 03-15-2020, 10:48 AM.
                    Terrell County Deputy: It's a mess, ain't it, sheriff?

                    Sheriff: If it ain't, it'll do 'til the mess gets here..

                    No Country For Old Men

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                    • emtguy89
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                      That is basically what the Chinese did. Closed everything but grocery stores, suspended all non-essential vehicle traffic, and locked down neighborhood entry/exit without a valid purpose. Now everything is back to normal except I think schools are still doing everything online.

                  • #57
                    How is all of your departments handling this I wonder?

                    Must be nice to be retired right now.

                    Our county administrator just put out a decree that if you even feel the slightest under the weather you need to self quarantine and you will not be able to come into work for at least two weeks. For the non essential worker they are looking at a work from home telecommute type environment.

                    Good luck to all us deputies because there's no way we have enough bodies to reach minimum staffing if three or more of us feel sick. And the typical slugs of our department will for sure take advantage of this.

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                    • emtguy89
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                      FT job at the college, is business as usual except that all students and non-PD staff are gone. So supervisors catch up on paperwork, I stop cars all night, and some people have taken time off while there's nothing to do. This is kinda a retirement home for cops, while I'm still young though so most people don't really do a whole lot of proactive enforcement anyway, they've all done their time at other agencies when they were younger. PT job at the county schools, everything is shut down so we aren't working. Probably for the next week or two. All classes in both systems are online now, which sucks for some people who don't have internet.

                  • #58
                    Not going to mention names or departments, however we have a few O.Com members in Nor Cal who will be enforcing a ban on gatherings of 35+.





                    *The ban excludes airports, office, medical or school environments, as well as grocery stores and pharmacies.
                    Last edited by BTDT2; 03-15-2020, 01:34 PM.

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                    • #59
                      Originally posted by BTDT2 View Post
                      Not going to mention names or departments, however we have a few O.Com members in Nor Cal who will be enforcing a ban on gatherings of 35+.





                      *The ban excludes airports, office, medical or school environments, as well as grocery stores and pharmacies.
                      Are you sure they're not shutting down bars right now?

                      CA governor ordered bars to close a few hours ago.
                      This Space For Rent

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                      • #60



                        WTF - toilet paper delivery to Costco with police escort.
                        Last edited by BTDT2; 03-15-2020, 06:01 PM.

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                        • NOLA2005
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                          Well lack of toilet paper is one of the signs of the apocalypse...

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