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  • Originally posted by Margaret Hood View Post
    I cannot believe the Fla deputy who did not respond appropriately to the speeding woman on the way to her father who was at the hospital after driving himself in with a diagnosed "heart attack!" What officer training school did he attend? The proper response would have been. "Follow me mam, I'll lead you in !" but of course he might have pulled up her record and saw something he was not comfortable with, however, sometimes we don't get THE REST OF THE STORY! It is the duty of a sworn officer to protect lives and use his expertise training for such situations as this? Not really sure what this deputy's problem was.
    Absolute garbage.

    And, "Follow me mam, I'll lead you in !" whatever!!! If he did that, and there was a crash that severely injured or killed her, and/or father, LAWSUIT. He'd have probably breached policy and training standards, and wouldn't be provided a lawyer. So, she or her estate would own his home, and a large chunk of the department.

    Originally posted by Margaret Hood View Post
    "C'mon, what's the worse that could happen?? Well, looks like it did! The seemingly uncaring deputy is on suspension, and rightly so. It's these kind of bunglings that give the good cops a bad name!! Sorry to inform you, but there is such a thing as a compassionate and very skilled and highly trained cops who excercise leadership and survival skills to meet these types of situations of emergency. Remember the public does not have the option of these highly trained skills, they act upon survival and instint and rightly so, it sometimes saves lives!! Go back to sleep and hopefully someone will be aware of his or her duty and live it out!
    Give us a break. You are either completely ignorant of the goings on of the real world, or you're here to purposely stir up the crap. Either one is going to wear out your welcome, hopefully very soon.

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    • Originally posted by Scelous View Post
      Yeah, I was thinking about mentioning that. I know that police officers have to deal with a lot of scumbags, and plenty of people will lie to officers, especially to avoid a ticket or worse. So thinking that she could've been lying is defintely understandable.

      The thing for me is, she seemed suitably distraught. She still could've be lying, but couldn't the officer have said, "What's his name?" and checked the hospital to verify? That's the part that gets me. He was in a position to help someone in a difficult spot, and that's part of what seems appealing to me about choosing the LEO career.


      Believe it or not but people lie to cops, and it's usually everyday for a cop on the job. And believe it or not too, but some people people are very good liars, and will never admit anything to you, all the way to jail and even in jail....

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      • After watching the video, I didn't see anything with the deputy's actions.

        I had a situation similar to this last year, I stopped an asian female for a violation, and during the stop she suddenly takes off. I follow in pursuit for a couple miles, and she's completely ignoring my lights and sirens. She eventually stops and I take her out at gunpoint. It turns out their was a language barrier, could barely speak english, and had no idea what was going on, but yet she still somehow managed to have a valid driver's license issued by my state.

        I didn't arrest her, but did fill out a DMV re-evaluation form on her.

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          • To add to your "routine call" list. This one happened at just at 1110 on Tuesday May 10, 2005. RIP David, you haven't been forgotten.

            http://www.odmp.org/officer.php?oid=17754
            R.I.P. Sgt. 1st Class Raymond J. Munden

            You're service and sacrifice will not be forgotten.

            Kieth M.
            I once knew a guy who said, "I'll step over any nine to get to three threes!"

            I knew at that precise moment that he and I would never get into a fistfight over a woman.

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            • Originally posted by kingsman View Post
              anyone want to compare resumes?
              I want to know where you worked as an ex LEO. Did you install Direct TV too?
              Last edited by tony.o; 05-07-2007, 12:15 AM.
              The liberal politician has the only job where they go to the office to work for everyone but those who pay their salary.

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              • Originally posted by Margaret Hood View Post
                I cannot believe the Fla deputy who did not respond appropriately to the speeding woman on the way to her father who was at the hospital after driving himself in with a diagnosed "heart attack!" What officer training school did he attend? The proper response would have been. "Follow me mam, I'll lead you in !" but of course he might have pulled up her record and saw something he was not comfortable with, however, sometimes we don't get THE REST OF THE STORY! It is the duty of a sworn officer to protect lives and use his expertise training for such situations as this? Not really sure what this deputy's problem was.
                Man, you know this thing is going down hill when some old lady feels confident enough here to critique a traffic stop and arrest
                The liberal politician has the only job where they go to the office to work for everyone but those who pay their salary.

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                • Originally posted by Irishluck31 View Post
                  Seriously, you might want to seek professional help. It nice how you take it upon yourself to speak for more than just yourself. I find that funny to say the least.

                  I could be wrong, but I dont think I have ever tried to defend anyone on anytype of suspension or any other union matter in this forum and dont plan on starting. I have never attmpted to defend any of the suspension I have take in this public forum. I have used them as a punch line. When somebody looses a weeks pay over an incident I feel for them and their family, but I dont expect that helps. I certainly dont take it to heart, cops get suspended every day. I take the Sheriff's side on this until I am proven wrong, as of now I have read nothing but drivel and anti "The Man" hate and retoric. You base your whole theory on one 2 minute dash cam video, I base my arguments on the Sheriff's suspension and the fact that he probably had the Deputies file opened infornt of him for the duration of his decision making process. I also know that the Sheriff doesnt usually have the authority to drop any charges brought by one of his deputies, it the prosecutor who does that, so maybe they looked at the case as well and thought there wasnt enough. Just a bit of deductive reasoning, I could be wrong.

                  You'll "bust" me on it. Whats that a 3rd grade threat. very scary

                  Lastly, I am part of no "Political Machine" but you are a tool. Thats funny.

                  The name is now spelled wrong but its the same old spin. You use this deps misfortune and bad timing to further your political bull trash. Then you sit back and ask why people wont take responsibility for their own actions. It really is confusing and it might be time to up the dose.
                  Oooohhhhh! You got me on the "tool" name calling. Who is ths 3rd grader?

                  Yeah, politics had nothing to do with e sheriff's or the prosecutors decision.
                  Space for rent .........

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                  • Originally posted by Margaret Hood View Post
                    I cannot believe the Fla deputy who did not respond appropriately to the speeding woman on the way to her father who was at the hospital after driving himself in with a diagnosed "heart attack!" What officer training school did he attend? The proper response would have been. "Follow me mam, I'll lead you in !" but of course he might have pulled up her record and saw something he was not comfortable with, however, sometimes we don't get THE REST OF THE STORY! It is the duty of a sworn officer to protect lives and use his expertise training for such situations as this? Not really sure what this deputy's problem was.
                    While there are officers here that are on both sides of this issue, maybe you should stick to "writing, gardening,swimming." Officers don't say "Follow me mam, I'll lead you in !" Most are even forbidden to by policy. You see, our fellow humans have a tendency to sue us when we try to help in ways that you are suggesting. If there was an accident - no matter that it's primary cause would be the motorist,car defect or natural disaster, the fact that the officer was "escorting them with their patrol vehicle" would be enough for them to win a whole bunch of money.

                    Oh ....... and although you might not believe that humans are capable of it, they sometime lie to the police.
                    Space for rent .........

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                    • Originally posted by Margaret Hood View Post
                      "C'mon, what's the worse that could happen?? Well, looks like it did! The seemingly uncaring deputy is on suspension, and rightly so. It's these kind of bunglings that give the good cops a bad name!! Sorry to inform you, but there is such a thing as a compassionate and very skilled and highly trained cops who excercise leadership and survival skills to meet these types of situations of emergency. Remember the public does not have the option of these highly trained skills, they act upon survival and instint and rightly so, it sometimes saves lives!! Go back to sleep and hopefully someone will be aware of his or her duty and live it out!
                      Yeah, and she was so caring that she put the public AND that officer in jeopardy.

                      Soccer mom mentality.

                      Yes, the public (especially the sheltered ones) do not have the benefit of police training and experience to view these things without the emotion.
                      Space for rent .........

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                      • Originally posted by tony.o View Post
                        Man, you know this thing is going down hill when some old lady feels confident enough here to critique a traffic stop and arrest
                        That is how we are being reviewed by citizen boards. Ridiculous. Soccer moms are in charge!
                        Space for rent .........

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                        • Originally posted by scratched13 View Post
                          Oooohhhhh! You got me on the "tool" name calling. Who is ths 3rd grader?

                          Yeah, politics had nothing to do with e sheriff's or the prosecutors decision.

                          Didnt say politics had nothing to do with it. Its not a Conspiricy though.
                          It takes a Wolf.......

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                          • Originally posted by Scelous View Post
                            Yeah, I was thinking about mentioning that. I know that police officers have to deal with a lot of scumbags, and plenty of people will lie to officers, especially to avoid a ticket or worse. So thinking that she could've been lying is defintely understandable.

                            The thing for me is, she seemed suitably distraught. She still could've be lying, but couldn't the officer have said, "What's his name?" and checked the hospital to verify? That's the part that gets me. He was in a position to help someone in a difficult spot, and that's part of what seems appealing to me about choosing the LEO career.
                            Asking his name and getting dispatch to call the hospital would have taken just as long as writing the ticket, if not longer. She would have probably taken off instead of waiting for that to happen too. Besides, she already said that she wasn't sure if he was there. The hospitals around here will rarely tell us anything about a patient anyways and if they do, it takes forever.

                            One thing that everyone needs to remember is that this woman was only in this situation because SHE made a series of bad choices. SHE had several opportunities to prevent it. First, SHE could have driven the speed limit. Second, SHE could have sat there and waited for her ticket instead of driving off. Third, SHE could have complied with the officer after she stopped the second time. I know, everyone will say that she was distressed and could not think rationally, but, SHE made the decision to get behind the wheel in that condition.

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                            • Originally posted by Caesar2845 View Post
                              I know this is a pro-police site, and we all have the "fortress mentality" because everyone is against us...

                              ...But we can also have to use common sense. If you're in the parking lot of a hospital it's not unreasonable to say "ok, i'll follow you the 200 yards to the ER, if you're lying to me or you run from me, you'll regret it".

                              My mother passed away 1 month ago, she was taken to the hospital that my wife works at.
                              I was stopped a mile from the hospital. I had the benifit of a badge, but before I could get my wallet out the officer (a female) told me about as much as I wrote above. When she found out I was a cop she just told me to go on and be careful. This was reasonable, and I wouldn't have blamed her for calling (or having dispatch call) to varify my story, or following me in (she didn't, of course again, I have the benifit of a badge).

                              When your parent or other loved one is in mortal danger, you just don't always think straight.

                              YES, people lie to us all the time. If we get to the point where we're so cynical that we believe everyone is lying, we should step back a bit from what were doing. I had a lady tell me she was in labor during a traffic stop once back when i worked for a little town. She wasn't, but that doesn't mean I dismiss all such claims, because I knew that the one time I was wrong and the person is telling the truth, I'm done for. Judge each person and action for for themselves, not what others do.

                              Bottom line is the deputy's actions were technically correct, but they still make all of us look bad, and we don't need anymore of that.

                              I pray he keeps his job and learns from this (we all make mistakes), but if they end up booting him, he has himself to blame.
                              I have to concur. Saw the video. If she was miles away from the hospital then too bad, so sad. But she was in the hospital parking lot! This in and of itself lent credence to her "excuse".

                              Once he had her OL and Registration, The Deputy could have followed her to the ER to confirm her story. What was it? 100-200 yards away? 30 whole seconds extra time. The Deputy could then opt to cite her or not. Yes people lie. Yes people will do just about anything to get out of a ticket. But to play EVERY situation strickly by the book doesn't always pay off. Discretion is one of the most valuable tools of the trade. Being a little (just a little) empathetic to someone like this (not what one would describe as a criminal type; least not by initial appearance), on occassion won't hinder the job. Given her story, once confirmed, a judge would've probably reduced and/or dismissed the citation anyway! Now look what this Deputy and the department have to go through. We don't have to be pushovers but we don't have to be robots either.
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                              • Originally posted by KapsFB View Post
                                I have to concur. Saw the video. If she was miles away from the hospital then too bad, so sad. But she was in the hospital parking lot! This in and of itself lent credence to her "excuse".

                                Once he had her OL and Registration, The Deputy could have followed her to the ER to confirm her story. What was it? 100-200 yards away? 30 whole seconds extra time. The Deputy could then opt to cite her or not. Yes people lie. Yes people will do just about anything to get out of a ticket. But to play EVERY situation strickly by the book doesn't always pay off. Discretion is one of the most valuable tools of the trade. Being a little (just a little) empathetic to someone like this (not what one would describe as a criminal type; least not by initial appearance), on occassion won't hinder the job. Given her story, once confirmed, a judge would've probably reduced and/or dismissed the citation anyway! Now look what this Deputy and the department have to go through. We don't have to be pushovers but we don't have to be robots either.
                                Oh my God, the insanity of it. thats totally insane, what are you thinking about, insane I say. Wait thats not insanity its common sense. Shame on you for having common sense and actually using it. Protect and Serve, is it really an out dated process or do we just not want to do it anymore?

                                Not all traffic Stops have to end up being Felony stops. We just need to be aware that they all could be and we have to be smart enough to know the difference.
                                It takes a Wolf.......

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