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  • irishdep
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    This is going to be one of the biggest cases of BS I've ever seen. The officer didn't do ANYTHING wrong. That woman chose to speed, put countless lives in danger and to top it off flee the police. The chief that suspended the officer should be ashamed of himself. The only reason he's screwing his officer over is because of the media attention. THAT'S SPINELESS!
    Where's Sharpton? If this would have been a black woman that opportunist would have been on the flight, with his posse, to right the wrongs of society.

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  • OverCharged
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    ... he didnt even bounce her wtf are u people seeing he put her against the car cuffed her abnd took her to his car. that isnt even half the amount of force that he could have used for someone who fled once made the car move againt when the officer tried to get her and refused to obery simple commands.

    Simple PC BS.

    hope he sues the crap out of his department and the media for the defamation of his name.

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  • Caesar2845
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    I know this is a pro-police site, and we all have the "fortress mentality" because everyone is against us...

    ...But we can also have to use common sense. If you're in the parking lot of a hospital it's not unreasonable to say "ok, i'll follow you the 200 yards to the ER, if you're lying to me or you run from me, you'll regret it".

    My mother passed away 1 month ago, she was taken to the hospital that my wife works at.
    I was stopped a mile from the hospital. I had the benifit of a badge, but before I could get my wallet out the officer (a female) told me about as much as I wrote above. When she found out I was a cop she just told me to go on and be careful. This was reasonable, and I wouldn't have blamed her for calling (or having dispatch call) to varify my story, or following me in (she didn't, of course again, I have the benifit of a badge).

    When your parent or other loved one is in mortal danger, you just don't always think straight.

    YES, people lie to us all the time. If we get to the point where we're so cynical that we believe everyone is lying, we should step back a bit from what were doing. I had a lady tell me she was in labor during a traffic stop once back when i worked for a little town. She wasn't, but that doesn't mean I dismiss all such claims, because I knew that the one time I was wrong and the person is telling the truth, I'm done for. Judge each person and action for for themselves, not what others do.

    Bottom line is the deputy's actions were technically correct, but they still make all of us look bad, and we don't need anymore of that.

    I pray he keeps his job and learns from this (we all make mistakes), but if they end up booting him, he has himself to blame.

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  • scratched13
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    All of you all who "want to help people" when you become a police officer ....... you are gonna have to throw that cr*p aside when you actually put on the unform (for the most part). People will sell their own mothers to get out of a ticket. They lie, lie , LIE!!!!!!!!

    It was OBVIOUS that he believed she was lying. He used VERY LITTLE FORCE in getting her out of the car and into cuffs. He could have justified using PS or a taser when she resisted him when he got her stopped. That little snatch and plant WAS PLAIN RIDICULOUSLY ...... NOTHING. Sure, she is going to sue. The chief (that LOSER ) pretty much told her to. AND they threw out her charges????? Oh, okay ...... sorry mam, I didn't know that your friend was at the hospital with a torn nail ...... go on your way and disregard all traffic control devices. Idiots are screwing our whole society up.

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  • katzeyze
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    Originally posted by willowdared View Post
    Except for that pesky fact that people lie....
    Nooo Waaaay! You mean someone might *gasp* fib to an officer of the law to get out of a speeding ticket? I'd have neeeever suspected.

    Originally posted by Shawn020
    I mean, she passed right by the emergency room while she was fleeing from the cop. I think that she was a flight risk, and either she was really distrought, or a damn good actor... I think the officer had a job to do and was doing it, the violator was lucky that she wasn't going to the emergency room that night in a body bag considering the speeds she was traveling.
    I thought something smelled fishy too, but I just figured maybe it was feeding time at Sea World.

    Originally posted by Sunny71 View Post
    How can you set such a precedence? That chief should be fired. He/she just undermined everything police officers represent because I'm sure everyone has some excuse. Now it's left to the officer to "divine" who's telling the truth?
    So does this mean I can craft up some handy little excuse (okay, hers WAS legit, but how many times a week does an officer get some weepy woman and some sob story) and then cry and act hysterical to get out of a ticket?

    Originally posted by Fëanor View Post
    1 - He had to wrestle her out of the car
    2 - She was resisting.
    3 - He told her to get out of the car and she didn't.
    4 - I am actually a little surprised that the deputy didn't even hold her at gunpoint after she tried to drive off.

    I couldn't have said it better myself.

    She took off after sitting there for just under three and a half minutes. She should be glad that worse didn't happen to her and pretty little blond head.

    Some peoples children...

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  • willowdared
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    Originally posted by Scelous View Post
    The thing for me is, she seemed suitably distraught. She still could've be lying, but couldn't the officer have said, "What's his name?" and checked the hospital to verify? That's the part that gets me. He was in a position to help someone in a difficult spot, and that's part of what seems appealing to me about choosing the LEO career.
    And maybe, if she had stayed for ticket, he would have done just that.

    She was still doing 63 in a 35.

    35 usually means residential.

    That means people pulling in and out of driveways, and maybe kids playing nearby.

    What do you think happens when a vehicle t-bones another vehicle at 63 mph? I'm thinkin' not so good.

    Vehicle vs pedestrian....even worse.

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  • JSD73
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    Yup, after watching the video I saw NOTHING wrong with what he did or how it was handled and it's unfortunate that the Sheriff sided with the female. I don't understand how we as a country or a people are so afraid of hurting someone's feelings by saying "Hey, you screwed up, deal with it!"

    I pulled over a man who was rushing his wife to the hospital as she was pregnant...I didn't write him but he blew a red light in front of me, and didn't pull over until he got to the hospital, which was right around the corner from the infraction. I chewed him out, told him he could kill himself, his wife and the unborn child and then left....did I want to yank him out...oh hell yes...but I didn't. People can't think clearly in terms of their own crisis', we have bred a society of people that can only think of themselves and what's important to them.

    The officer needs to get representation and take action against his department.

    The one thing about female's is many of them are excellent at turning on and off the tears to get what they want or need...they use it on cops all the time, so I can fully understand why the officer might not react to her hysterics. Could he have called the hospital and verified the info...sure...that is, IF the hospital would actually advise the dispatcher if the person was there, and for privacy rights, that may not have happened. Also, who is to say if she would not have driven off while he was attempting to verify the info...would that have given him more right to do what he did or less??

    I stand behind that man for doing his job, and I didn't see any excessive force at all.
    Last edited by JSD73; 05-03-2007, 09:42 PM.

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  • Scelous
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    Originally posted by willowdared View Post
    Except for that pesky fact that people lie....all the time....
    Yeah, I was thinking about mentioning that. I know that police officers have to deal with a lot of scumbags, and plenty of people will lie to officers, especially to avoid a ticket or worse. So thinking that she could've been lying is defintely understandable.

    The thing for me is, she seemed suitably distraught. She still could've be lying, but couldn't the officer have said, "What's his name?" and checked the hospital to verify? That's the part that gets me. He was in a position to help someone in a difficult spot, and that's part of what seems appealing to me about choosing the LEO career.

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  • willowdared
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    Oh yeah!

    Annnnnnnnd........

    She's a lawyer!

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  • willowdared
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    Originally posted by Scelous View Post
    Hm. This is one of my hesitations about becoming a police officer. Did he act correctly? Is that how you're supposed to act?

    I would want to be a police officer to help the community; put the bad guys behind bars and help the good people. A daughter speeding to the hospital because her father had a heart attack and was in the ER... I would put her in the latter category. I mean, I would want to help her get to the ER where her father could've been dying or dead. I'd want to make a difference in a good way. It makes me sad to see this.
    Except for that pesky fact that people lie....all the time....and someone going that fast is putting others in danger.

    She should have stayed for her ticket, but she chose to flee. As far as that officer knew, she was a wanted felon, and armed.

    Never assume - anything - ever.

    By the way, we had a similar situation a few years ago. She was going 60+ in a 25. She peeled off after she was pulled over, yanking the ticket book out of the officer's hands as she left.

    She thru it out the window a few blocks away, and was arrested in front of her child's school.

    Did I mention she was driving her 6 year old to school, and was running late?

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  • Scelous
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    Hm. This is one of my hesitations about becoming a police officer. Did he act correctly? Is that how you're supposed to act?

    I would want to be a police officer to help the community; put the bad guys behind bars and help the good people. A daughter speeding to the hospital because her father had a heart attack and was in the ER... I would put her in the latter category. I mean, I would want to help her get to the ER where her father could've been dying or dead. I'd want to make a difference in a good way. It makes me sad to see this.

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  • Lexis85
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    Okay, two sides of this:

    The woman should have stayed put and obeyed the law. Driving off as the officer is writing up a citation is just sheer stupidity on her part. However, I don't see how that much force would be justified. Sure she drove off on him but there are several other videos of pursuits where it shows the officer instructing the occupant of the vehicle to get out of the car, not just walking up to it and yanking her out of it. I fully support officers using force when it is absolutely needed. In this case there was a lot more the officer could have done before using that kind of force on her.

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  • Fëanor
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    Originally posted by Bearcat357 View Post
    Why did he need to bounce her off the car hard enough to cut her head open....? Yeah....she resisted by fleeing.....but once he got her out of the car, the resisting stopped.......
    He had to wrestle her out of the car, at first she didn't even put the car in park (as if she intended to drive off again).

    She was resisting. He told her to get out of the car and she didn't. So he did it for her and made sure to get her in cuffs before she tried anything else.

    Personally I think the cop was nice to start, before she tried fleeing. He was only going to give her a ticket and let her go on her way. I would have impounded her car and told her to walk across the street to the hospital. She was obviously in no condition to be driving.

    Originally posted by JSandi
    The level of force was a bit too much.
    I disagree. She was clearly not cooperating, she was trying to stay in the car and drive off again.

    I am actually a little surprised that the deputy didn't even hold her at gunpoint after she tried to drive off.
    Last edited by Fëanor; 05-03-2007, 08:35 PM.

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  • JSandi
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    He should have taken her to jail, but with a professional smile on his face. The level of force was a bit too much.

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  • Bearcat357
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    I just saw the vid......my .02 cents....

    Why did he need to bounce her off the car hard enough to cut her head open....? Yeah....she resisted by fleeing.....but once he got her out of the car, the resisting stopped.......

    From watching Fox, she's not suing for excessive force....she said she was happy that he got suspended.....

    And yes, the media is having a field day with this.....Fox, CNN, and MSNBC are running it.....and all the LEO experts are on talking about the excessive force......and all are saying he used too much....

    The Deputy should feel happy he didn't get fired and sued......especially in todays world.....
    Last edited by Bearcat357; 05-03-2007, 07:44 PM.

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