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    Being retired from LASD I am ashamed of what has happened to my dept....There is no damn reason this incident should have taken two hours to handle.....Yank his butt out the window, cuff him properly and finish what you started out to do. This crap of being kind and gentle has got to end.
    http://onscenevideo.tv/boyle-heights...-car-standoff/
    Last edited by Retired96; 03-07-2018, 01:33 PM.
    Retired LASD

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    I wonder who the lady with the clipboard was. Psych? Ia?

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    • #3
      There's nothing mentally wrong with this guy, this was a failed escape attempt. When backup got there, so did the news crew. All of his screaming and yelling is just an act, playing to the news cameras. Did no one have a taser at the scene? He did not need to go to a hospital for evaluation, either. Take him straight to The Hole.

      He needs an additional charge for trying to escape, plus tack on restitution to pay for response costs.
      You can trust just about every officer you work with to risk their life to save yours, but don't ever leave your lunch in the breakroom refrigerator.

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      • #4
        You need to understand the LASD has gotten so PC Deputies can't do anything anymore...They have the most strict pursuit policy, your lucky if you can chase a known murder suspect......The New Sheriff, a ex LAPD assistant Chief has helped to destroy the dept.
        Retired LASD

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Retired96 View Post
          You need to understand the LASD has gotten so PC Deputies can't do anything anymore...They have the most strict pursuit policy, your lucky if you can chase a known murder suspect......The New Sheriff, a ex LAPD assistant Chief has helped to destroy the dept.
          Sounds more like "liability averse". I certainly get it. Nobody wants a Use of Force on their watch anymore, especially agency admin. The officers certainly won't do anything if they think the agency will throw them under the bus at the first opportunity. While you might pull him out of the window and bang him on the pavement a few times to get him re-secured, and I might tase him square in the lips, doing either one would look real ugly on the five o'clock news, and might ruin the agency's rapport with the assclown community.

          In this case, they coddled the goof for two hours, but he can't threaten to sue them for coddling, no matter how long it took.

          I hate it, it's infuriating, it sucks, but it's what policing has become... Not just in LA or even Cali. It's like that all over nowadays
          You can trust just about every officer you work with to risk their life to save yours, but don't ever leave your lunch in the breakroom refrigerator.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Retired96 View Post
            You need to understand the LASD has gotten so PC Deputies can't do anything anymore...They have the most strict pursuit policy, your lucky if you can chase a known murder suspect......The New Sheriff, a ex LAPD assistant Chief has helped to destroy the dept.
            Yeah, but at least he changed their belt buckles.

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            • #7
              Dispatch, Maniac has responded with a scornful remark.
              Going too far is half the pleasure of not getting anywhere

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ateamer View Post
                Yeah, but at least he changed their belt buckles.
                And snaps on our leather hear, plus changed the wording of our motto and enlarging the star on the doors
                I'd rather be judged by 12 rather carried by 6.

                It should be noted that any and all post that are made are based on my own thought and opinions. And are not related or implied to represent the department I work for.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Retired96 View Post
                  Being retired from LASD I am ashamed of what has happened to my dept....There is no damn reason this incident should have taken two hours to handle.....Yank his butt out the window, cuff him properly and finish what you started out to do. This crap of being kind and gentle has got to end.
                  http://onscenevideo.tv/boyle-heights...-car-standoff/
                  I'm with you, me personally could've written that force and failed escape attempt and vandalism. I would've tased him in the a*s and dragged back into the car. The other problem is that newer deputies are affraid of writing paper. They don't know how to do it.

                  The other issue I see are Sgt's with a lack of experience. I'm sorry two years off patrol training should not be the minimum requirement. How about five years, maybe work as an FTO, detective or watch deputy, heck I would talk a senior deputy in custody as experience. Nope not LASD. Heck I know a guy who did his two years working traffic. Took a test and promoted.
                  I'd rather be judged by 12 rather carried by 6.

                  It should be noted that any and all post that are made are based on my own thought and opinions. And are not related or implied to represent the department I work for.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by moparfan View Post
                    And snaps on our leather hear, plus changed the wording of our motto and enlarging the star on the doors
                    Don't discount the value of those things. They are huge and show the hallmarks of true professionalism.

                    Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. - Ronald Reagan

                    I don't think It'll happen in the US because we don't trust our government. We are a country of skeptics, raised by skeptics, founded by skeptics. - Amaroq

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                    • #11
                      Then someone needs to send Wilson the memo...
                      Now go home and get your shine box!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by moparfan View Post
                        The other issue I see are Sgt's with a lack of experience. I'm sorry two years off patrol training should not be the minimum requirement. How about five years, maybe work as an FTO, detective or watch deputy, heck I would talk a senior deputy in custody as experience. Nope not LASD. Heck I know a guy who did his two years working traffic. Took a test and promoted.
                        So why aren't those deps w/ more experience applying? Why isn't the process competitive to the point where someone w/ only 2 years isn't in the hunt?
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Pogue Mahone View Post

                          So why aren't those deps w/ more experience applying? Why isn't the process competitive to the point where someone w/ only 2 years isn't in the hunt?
                          Because those with more time on dont want to get ran over by the Blue Falcon Bus Company....where you used to see 1500+ taking the test, you are now seeing maybe 400 or so testing
                          The posts on this forum by this poster are of his personal opinion, and his personal opinion alone

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Pogue Mahone View Post

                            So why aren't those deps w/ more experience applying? Why isn't the process competitive to the point where someone w/ only 2 years isn't in the hunt?
                            You would be surprised at the number of line officers that have no wish to be a boss.

                            The higher you go in any agency................the less core work you get to do and the more administrative crap you have to deal with .

                            Biggest mistake I made in my 40 + year career was promoting .
                            Since some people need to be told by notes in crayon .......Don't PM me with without prior permission. If you can't discuss the situation in the open forum ----it must not be that important

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                            • #15
                              I had 19 years on when I promoted to Sgt, it was the biggest mistake I made...I already was in a specialized detective unit where I already made Sgts. pay..Spending my last years as a Sgt. in custody was downright miserable...The only good thing was the massive amount of overtime I worked which put tons of money in my bank account..
                              Retired LASD

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                              • Iowa #1603
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                                Yep.............15 yrs on when I promoted to Lt after being an acting Sgt for 2 yrs. NO OVERTIME pay
                                I went to mids for 15 yrs to get away from the BS

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