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    Our sheriff decided today that he wants all of the SO policies and protocols revised . I'm not quite sure why were being asked to update everything, but I guess its a good thing.

    We technically use the standard Adam, Boy, Charlie police phonetics system (why am I forgetting its name), but in reality most of our dispatchers and deputies (and all of fire rescue & EMS) use international (NATO) phonetics - Alpha, Bravo, Charlie. We're considering adopting international phonetics when we revise the communications protocol. I noticed that Virgina standardized phonetics as part of their NIMS push. Does NIMS dictate a specific phonetics system? Does anyone know of any good reason why we should use standard police phonetics instead? Thanks!

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    I think it should be the same for every dept. We use Adam, Boy, Charlie, and when another dept calls us and starts throwing out Alpha, Bravo it kind of throws me off. I'm not ready for it sometimes and usually have to stop them and ask them to start over.

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    • #3
      NIMS has not yet defined a "standard" other then using "plain speak" for inter-agency communications.

      We use Adam, Boy, Charles....
      Molly Weasley makes Chuck Norris eat his vegetables.

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        Switching over is going to be a real challenge. Learning those phonetics is a little like learning a foreign language, and after a while, you can say "Adam, Boy Charles" as fast as you can say "A,B,C" and without thinking about it. I had to learn the NATO system for the Army, but I never used it much, and now I can't even recall all the letters/words, much less use it in common speech.

        Even the minor variations can throw you off. We used "Charles" instead of "Charlie," and I do a double-take when I hear it.

        FEMA ought to standardize on a system - the phonetics aren't like radio codes. "C" "D" and "E" can sound very similar over a radio, and that can be costly.

        I have learned that using police phonetics in the non-police world can be counterproductive. Simple as it is, people have trouble spelling my last name. On the phone, I've tried spelling it out as "David, Edward, Edward, Sam," and usually hear, "I thought you said your name was Tim?"
        Tim Dees, now writing as a plain old forum member, his superpowers lost to an encounter with gold kryptonite.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Tim Dees
          Switching over is going to be a real challenge. Learning those phonetics is a little like learning a foreign language, and after a while, you can say "Adam, Boy Charles" as fast as you can say "A,B,C" and without thinking about it. I had to learn the NATO system for the Army, but I never used it much, and now I can't even recall all the letters/words, much less use it in common speech.
          Try working/training folks to work as a LEO at an Airport.....where you have to use NATO when you are on the ramps/runways doing patrols.....and then switch back to "Adam, Boy, Charles, etc...." when you are on the road.....

          And yes, it was a PITA for a few folks......and something I had to practcie with my Boots when I was playing FTO.....

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          • #6
            I think the NATO might be more widely recognized outside of the LE world but like stated earlier it is like learning a foriegn language. I am in the same situation but reversed...I know the NATO by heart but trying to learn the LE one for the academy. If anyone can give me the whole alphabet or tell me the proper name that would be great. Tried looking it up but no dice.
            "When I came home, people often asked me about Iraq, and mostly I told them it wasn't so bad. I didn't know how to explain myself to them. The war really wasn't so bad. Yes, there were bombs and shootings and nervous times, but that was just the job. In fact, going to war is rather easy. You react to situations around you and try not to die. There are no electric bills or car payments or chores around the house. Just go to work, come home alive, and do it again tomorrow." - Brian Mockenhaupt

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            • #7
              Originally posted by cantue5
              If anyone can give me the whole alphabet or tell me the proper name that would be great.
              A-Adam
              B-Boy
              C-Charles
              D-David
              E-Edward
              F-Frank
              G-George
              H-Henry
              I-Ida
              J-John
              K-King
              L-Lincoln
              M-Mary
              N-Nora
              O-Ocean
              P-Paul
              Q-Queen
              R-Robert
              S-Sam
              T-Tom
              U-Union
              V-Victor
              W-William
              X-X-Ray
              Y-Young
              Z-Zebra

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              • #8
                We use the standard in my department, with the exception we are taught b is baker not boy

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                • #9
                  NATO.....just to see if I could remember it....

                  A-Alpha
                  B-Bravo
                  C-Charlie
                  D-Delta
                  E-Echo
                  F-Foxtrot
                  G-Golf
                  H-Hotel
                  I-India
                  J-Juliett
                  K-Kilo
                  L-Lima
                  M-Mike
                  N-November
                  O-Oscar
                  P-Papa
                  Q-Quebec
                  R-Romeo
                  S-Sierra
                  T-Tango tængo
                  U-Uniform
                  V-Victor
                  W-Whiskey
                  X-Xray
                  Y-Yankee
                  Z-Zulu

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Bearcat357
                    Y-Young
                    We used "Yellow." This isn't going to be easy.
                    Tim Dees, now writing as a plain old forum member, his superpowers lost to an encounter with gold kryptonite.

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                    • #11
                      hmmm...yes we use the same phonetics except Y is yellow..

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                      • #12
                        Thanks bearcat....this is really going to help. I saw a vid clip of a LA county trainee getting ripped by an instructor for not knowing how to spell his name phonetically. Don't want to be the one! Thanks again...and your NATO looks right on!
                        "When I came home, people often asked me about Iraq, and mostly I told them it wasn't so bad. I didn't know how to explain myself to them. The war really wasn't so bad. Yes, there were bombs and shootings and nervous times, but that was just the job. In fact, going to war is rather easy. You react to situations around you and try not to die. There are no electric bills or car payments or chores around the house. Just go to work, come home alive, and do it again tomorrow." - Brian Mockenhaupt

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Tim Dees
                          We used "Yellow." This isn't going to be easy.
                          Most be a West Coast thing....

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by cantue5
                            Thanks bearcat....this is really going to help. I saw a vid clip of a LA county trainee getting ripped by an instructor for not knowing how to spell his name phonetically. Don't want to be the one! Thanks again...and your NATO looks right on!
                            No problem.....

                            I work with a lot of guys that just got out of the military.....so I have fun by tossing out "civilian" phonetics at them all the time.....

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                            • #15
                              Yellow here too.

                              And we have some officers from Australia and Ireland...they say zehbra, instead of zeebra....makes things interesting.

                              I always get a kick out of RP's when they phoenetic things....you get things like Pizza Always Uniform Larry.
                              Molly Weasley makes Chuck Norris eat his vegetables.

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