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    i have not looked for a job in 28 years. With retirement now on the horizon, that is about to change. I have enjoyed my career and am considering a second police job. I would consider a city or county job, but would not rule out any police department. I will have spent 30 years with a large department and would be interested in something different. I am not particularly interested in completing a paramilitary academy at the age of 50, so ideally would like to find a state that will transfer my North Carolina certification or that would allow the transfer with some form of shortened academy.

    i am looking for any tips on departments, job listings, job search tactics, or general information from anybody who has found a police job at the age of 50.

    Thanks for your input.

  • #2
    Just food for thought - For some reason it is easier to get hired elsewhere as a cop while you are still working as a cop. But once you are retired you are a "used to be" and used to bes are a dime a dozen. So, think about starting your new job search in your last year prior to retiring.
    Going too far is half the pleasure of not getting anywhere

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    • #3
      Originally posted by jnhdrac View Post
      i have not looked for a job in 28 years. With retirement now on the horizon, that is about to change. I have enjoyed my career and am considering a second police job. I would consider a city or county job, but would not rule out any police department. I will have spent 30 years with a large department and would be interested in something different. I am not particularly interested in completing a paramilitary academy at the age of 50, so ideally would like to find a state that will transfer my North Carolina certification or that would allow the transfer with some form of shortened academy.

      i am looking for any tips on departments, job listings, job search tactics, or general information from anybody who has found a police job at the age of 50.

      Thanks for your input.
      I can attest that L-1 is absolutely correct in that if you are looking at staying in LE and just want a change of scenery to a different state/department then you'll want to make this change while still employed. If you choose to retire and then look for a new job in LE you'll be getting close to a Sgt. Andy Kilvinski experience......just saying.

      LE is a career where you are INSIDE or you are OUTSIDE.......there is no in between.

      I suggest finding out where you want to be located and then pick departments of interest to you in those locations/states. Then go through the lateral hiring process.
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      • #4
        I'm in pretty much the same position, except... I don't want a job in law enforcement or security. I want to go completely outside the box. I'd love to go back to school to be a veterinary assistant, spend my day caring for cats and dogs. At this point, I wouldn't mind cleaning up poop. It's dealing with people's crap that I'm totally fed up with. I'm so sick and tired of dealing with "Aint nobody gonna tell ME what to do", I want to puke.

        Working with kindergarten age kids at a day-care would be a blast, being a grandpa myself, but there's a perceived 'creepy' stigma there, so that's out.

        Maybe I'll get a job mowing lawns at a golf course. Get a big floppy hat, a quart size iced beverage, drive a mower and work on my tan.

        Something mindless and zero stress, that has no contact whatsoever with nasty, ignorant people.

        Sorry. Just venting. Carry on.
        You can trust just about every officer you work with to risk their life to save yours, but don't ever leave your lunch in the breakroom refrigerator.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by L-1 View Post
          Just food for thought - For some reason it is easier to get hired elsewhere as a cop while you are still working as a cop. But once you are retired you are a "used to be" and used to bes are a dime a dozen. So, think about starting your new job search in your last year prior to retiring.
          That's true, but if you want a pension from your current police job, and are looking to "double dip," just start making good connections while you are still active. Be honest with the prospective PD, I.e., that you want to retire from your dept, take x time off and then start with theirs.

          Anyway, that's would I would do so you at least get a pension for your 28+ years. Good luck.
          They Don’t Think It Be Like It Is, But It Do.

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          • #6
            Thanks for your input. I am torn with what I will do next. Policing has been a good career and I like the job. It will probably pay better than many of the alternatives. On the other hand it is not like it was and I wonder if it is time to move on to something else. I do not believe the grass is always greener. My agency has been a good employer and I am not at all confident another department would be the same, but I also know some would be better. Moving is also a big question mark. I am happy enough where I live but am also bored. On the other hand moving for the sake of moving is a waste of money. I have a list of places I like to visit but am not confident I want to live anywhere on that list. When you have spent your career in one city your contacts, inside and outside of policing, are limited. At least my list of contacts are primarily local.

            As far as police jobs, my plan is to spend the next year searching and then begin applying one year from retirement assuming I find some that are interesting. I bring enough to the table I can afford to be selective and I can afford to walk away if I choose. Is applying one year from my start date appropriate? Some people have told me I should be actively looking now. Almost 2 years seems too far in advance, but I am out of the loop.

            i am also curious what others have found outside of law enforcement.

            Thanks again.

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            • #7
              South Carolina would require you to go through a 6-week program at the academy to "transfer" your certification. It's non live-in program for pre certified guys.

              Its basically legals and DT and you get your SC cert.

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              • #8
                The Santa Clara County Sheriff's Office hires Extra Help Deputies to supplement Court Security. You would need to square your police Creds with CA POST. This job is mostly a recently retired gig. There is no Academy, you go through a Court Training Program and that's it.

                *You may may find Silicon Valley housing costs to be unacceptably high.
                semper destravit

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                  I think that the cost shock at Silicon Valley versus North Carolina would be paralyzing.

              • #9
                I'm not quite at that point in life, but I can see it on the misty, not-to-distant horizon....

                You seem a bit adrift, as if you're bored with your current surroundings, but unsure if making big changes is worth the gamble. Welcome to the club.

                As far as the 'what else can I do for income until I die or cannot work anymore' question, it ultimately depends on marketable skills. Yes there will always be $11/hour security jobs sitting in a company car at a construction site, night after night watching moths flitter below the streetlights but my time and skillsets are worth more than peanuts. At least I'd like to think so.

                Friends and peers I know who retired early landed in different places. One guy is now VP for Global Security at a Fortune 500 company and probably makes well into the six figures. In addition to skills, he had the right connections and a dynamic personality mojo working for him.

                Others work random jobs when they pop up. Mostly short term contract security jobs and seasonal work. Just to have something to do and a little extra money for gas in the fishing boat.

                I've known a few guys who became chiefs at smaller departments for their retirement gigs. Little towns with little departments. Not much financial reward but they enjoyed being called Chief and being a big fish in a little pond.


                Other jobs for FROGS (fat retired old guys):

                -Consulting for in-demand skills, like physical security design, computer forensics or polygraph. People I know in this world charge crazy rates, like $250-$300 an hour. But they have the skills to do so.

                -Firearms related jobs, i.e. training concealed pistol license holders, working the gun counter at Gander Mountain, safety officer a gun range, etc). One guy I know qualifies FFDOs (i.e. armed pilots) and gets paid decently.

                -Regulatory jobs that don't require LE certifications, like inspectors for state lottery/tobacco/alcohol commissions.

                -Pre-sentence investigators for local courts.

                -Adjunct jobs in academia (sometimes they are called "specialists"). Tenured professors require PhDs but CJ departments often employ instructors who actually did the job, not just defended a dissertation on the causes of inner city crime.

                -Film industry. This might sound a bit nuts but I've known cops who joined the Screen Actors Guild and while the work has been feast or famine, they have been in a few movies and tv shows as background characters. I'm told producers specifically want real LEOs to play LEOs because they carry a certain swagger that actors just don't have. The main deal is whether you are in a state with TV/film incentives; if you are not, don't bother 'cuz Hollywood ain't coming.

                According to those who jumped from one career into another, their advice was to go at the 50 mark, because the expectation is you'll work another 10-15 years. If you wait until 57, 58, etc, your market value drops significantly.

                Also, I've been told one should begin 'greasing the skids' two years before lift-off, i.e.- letting it be known amongst peers in your professional circles that you're interested in pursuing post-LE opportunities, sprucing up the resume, getting a Linked In account, etc.


                I'm hoping none of the above information will apply for me as hopefully a Mega-millions jackpot is in my future, but in event that dream remains a dream, I'm most interested getting established as a LLC and trying the consultant thing. I'll keep the details close to my chest because I don't want to hex it, but will say this: after 25 plus years of working for others, in my next act, I'll want to work for myself.



                I used to be a banker but I lost interest.

                -Steven Wright

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                • #10
                  I have always enjoyed gardening and when I retired I began doing my neighbors yards..I don't just mow, blow and go..I plant seasonal flowers, weed, fertilize etc. It gives me plenty of exercise and I enjoy being outside doing something I enjoy doing...I just work 3 days a week, charge 100.00 per customer and the 800.00 a month added to my excellent retirement is nice.
                  Retired LASD

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                  • #11
                    I am fairly certain of what I do not want from the next job. I am not interested in a pile of travel, particularly long distance. I kind of like the thought, but do not like the reality.

                    For me, I want a job. I do not want to be self employed. I get why others like the self employed angle, but it's not for me. I do not mind a contract job, but am not interested in running my own business with multiple customers.

                    pilicing is the job that I know and am good at. One argument in my mind against changing fields is I will never be as skilled in the new field as I currently am in policing. I have enjoyed the job and the good times far outweighed the bad, but it was certainly not all good times.

                    i have looked into the ASIS accreditation but my opinion is that the better jobs would require travel I am not interested in. I would seek the investigators accreditation , unfortunately I do not have the resume for the management accreditation. I do not find corporate security to be particularly interesting though.

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                    • #12
                      Barista. If you're stuck in your ways, you're not going to get much.
                      Now go home and get your shine box!

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                      • #13
                        Unless you have some specialty area most of the retired guys around here if they work either do side traffic jobs or find a small agency basically being a body drinking coffee.
                        Where'd you learn that, Cheech? Drug school?

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                        • #14
                          When I retired I kicked back for a few months and got some of the "honey do" list done...................then looked around a bit.

                          I looked at some delivery jobs, courtesy driver for a car dealership, courier for a couple medical labs & was actually thinking about stocking at the local grocery store. I really didn't want to get into ANY job that I had to carry a gun or work shifts

                          Within a month I found a job with an armored car company..................................That job lasted 10 days. 2nd worst mistake I made in my professional life .I DID NOT want a full time job---------------and this job was about 60 hours a week with no OT (DOT Truckers type pay) and only $10 an hour. Crappy equipment & terrible leadership.
                          It really did feel good to tell the manager that I was leaving because they couldn't pay me enough to work that job.

                          I then decided that I was going to be very selective when I DID find something I wanted to do.

                          Six months later I fell into a job working Court Security & prisoner transport for my local Sheriff's Office. ALL seven members of our division are retired LE or Corrections.

                          It's a non sworn job......................but I am "affiliated " with LE & "part of the club" Had I wanted I could have easily went to work as a PT deputy .............but I didn't want to go that way.

                          I work a couple days a week & am kind of on call the rest of the time ....................but I can refuse a call in if I have something going when called. The job has evolved a bit where I am doing a lot more than Security and Transport PLUS I am now doing scheduling so I only work WHEN I want (except in emergencies)
                          Last weekend I ended up doing the 2nd overnight shift since I retired six years ago.............The sheriff called me and asked if I could guard an airplane wreck overnight until NTSB showed up...............Like I said the job has evolved


                          Job search tactics...................NETWORK Find out who in your area has part time jobs, LE affiliated jobs.

                          Since some people need to be told by notes in crayon .......Don't PM me with without prior permission. If you can't discuss the situation in the open forum ----it must not be that important

                          My new word for the day is FOCUS, when someone irritates you tell them to FOCUS

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                          • #15
                            I would apply to a college PD or some kind of non-traditional LE agency like that. Particularly the smaller college PD's, you'll spend more time at the coffee machine then actually responding to calls...perfect for retired guys.

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