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  • #31
    Originally posted by Pogue Mahone View Post
    I don't think my example is that far-fetched when many conservatives not only won't accept a ban on 3rd trimester abortions, but won't accept anything other than a complete ban.


    In spite of my views on abortion, you do realize I posted this mostly in jest?
    i know it's in jest. But this is epic probable cause.

    "Why did you stop my client?"

    "I had probable cause to believe that he was in violation of the new jerk-off law"

    "Deputy, why would believe that? My client isn't a criminal he a healthy normal male who doesn't do that and he has a girlfriend and is going to college!"

    "ah, your Honor his counsel just prove my case..."

    semper destravit

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    • #32
      I guess guys had best keep the pants zipped up....theirs or someone else's.
      "You're never guaranteed the cards that life is going to deal you. But nothing says you can't play the hell out of them!"

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      • #33
        I guess in that case carrying condoms would be a felony.
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        • #34
          Would possession of pron be like possession of ammunition?
          "You're never guaranteed the cards that life is going to deal you. But nothing says you can't play the hell out of them!"

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Langford PR View Post

            If it was served consecutively.....I'd still be in prison from offenses committed when I was thirteen!
            At $100 fine per violation, ...well you would owe them a lot of money.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by tanksoldier View Post
              There comes a point where abortion is killing a child. You can argue where that exact point IS but IMO that's just putting lipstick on the proverbial pig.

              It was OK for me to kill this YESTERDAY, but not TODAY. OK, fine... whatever lets you sleep at night.



              If killing a fetus before it is born is OK, then we should be able to kill babies after they are born.

              There comes a point where the two are indistinguishable except that one in still inside mom and the other isn't.

              If the only difference is the portal the infant passed thru, lets make it the hospital doors instead.
              The difference is that while the fetus is inside the mother, she has absolutely full control over it.

              The fetus is 100% reliant on the mother for all its nutrients and the mother essentially acts as life support.

              The mother has right to cut off life support at anytime.

              Let me put it this way. If the mother kills herself with a fetus inside her, is it considered murder-suicide?

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              • #37
                Originally posted by chip4 View Post
                The difference is that while the fetus is inside the mother, she has absolutely full control over it.
                No-one, except perhaps an omnipotent being, has "absolutely" full control over anything.

                The fetus is 100% reliant on the mother for all its nutrients and the mother essentially acts as life support.
                Neonates are nearly as dependent as fetuses are on their lives being supported other than by themselves. A set of differences is definable, in that: in the case of a fetus, much of the necessary support is such that only the mother can provide it, while in the case of a neonate, persons other than the mother can provide sufficient support.

                The mother has right to cut off life support at anytime.
                No, she doesn't, whether her child is already born or not. Even in the Roe v. Wade case, and subsequently in the Planned Parenthood v. Casey case, the USSC recognized a late-term "viability" distinction. I recognize other bright-line distinctions. And late-term abortions don't merely "cut off life support" -- the actual procedures are horribly gruesome -- not something to be inflicted on anyone -- certainly not upon an innocent not-yet-born child.

                Let me put it this way. If the mother kills herself with a fetus inside her, is it considered murder-suicide?
                If she does so intentionally, I would consider it such -- please note that you repeatedly called the mother of a fetus a mother -- to me that means you know the fetus is a child.
                Last edited by Monty Ealerman; 03-19-2017, 11:13 PM.

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