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    While reading the "nails at funeral" subject, this was on the same site.

    August 17, 2006

    Using GPS to Make Sure Officers are on Post

    Thirteen reprimands and one resignation lay in the wake of an investigation which wrapped up this week in Hoboken, New Jersey.

    According to reports, GPS units installed in patrol cars were used to track patrol patterns of officers. The Jersey Journal had the story.

    HOBOKEN - Thirteen members of the Police Department were reprimanded this week in the wake of a 14-month investigation that ended with the resignation of the department's highest ranking female police officer, said Chief Carmen LaBruno.

    According to LaBruno, GPS tracking devices used as evidence against Capt. Karen Dimonde - who resigned last month after admitting that she wasn't showing up for her midnight-to-8 a.m. shift - proved that others on Dimonde's command were also slacking off.

    "Our observations coupled with the GPS showed that a substantial number of officers were not patrolling or that their patrol patterns were inconsistent with our policy," said LaBruno, noting that there are roughly 25 cops assigned to the nighttime shift.

    LaBruno said five police officers agreed to accept a three-day suspension, followed by five days of work without pay, five others were given reprimands and ordered to work without pay for one to three days, and three superiors received written reprimands.

    The five officers who have accepted suspension are: Donald Rosso, William Collins, Glorybi Garcia, Ryan Dimone and Marco Grossman.

    Police Officers Danilo Cabrera, Juan Madera, Leonard Cattaneo, John Cirillo and Michael Miranda have been given written reprimands and will give back various days, and Sgts. John Orrico, Anthony Pasculli and Peter Vannin received written reprimands.

    Any future violations by these officers will result in them being fired, LaBruno added.

    Detective Vince Lombardi, president of the Hoboken Police Officers Benevolent Association, called the disciplinary actions "severe and unwarranted."

    "The officers involved were available and on patrol," Lombardi said. "The tracking system just shows that the car wasn't moving. To drive around in a police car for eight hours is physically and mentally impossible."

  • #2
    Agian this guy has to drag up the anti cop dirt.

    And I would put this type of behavior in the same catagory as sleeping on duty, right sheriff?????
    "Socrates was a philosopher. He talked a lot. They killed him." unknown to me.

    "Evil prevails when good men do nothing."

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    • #3
      Originally posted by scratch13
      Agian this guy has to drag up the anti cop dirt.
      Where in his post is this anti-cop? It either happened or it didn't. Looks like a pasted article to me.

      What is "anti-cop" about that article is using GPS units to police the police. As a cop, I read it and I think "what BS". But you don't know what Sheriff's intentions were, so you can't make calls like that.

      Originally posted by scratch13
      And I would put this type of behavior in the same catagory as sleeping on duty, right sheriff?????
      As long as it's done safely, who says there is anything wrong with taking a power nap while working the overnight?
      You have no right to not be offended.-Neal Boortz

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      • #4
        Originally posted by scratch13
        Agian this guy has to drag up the anti cop dirt.

        And I would put this type of behavior in the same catagory as sleeping on duty, right sheriff?????
        Scratch, I can't help but notice that you devote just about every post you make to attacking Sheriff. We understand that you don't like Sheriff, and there's no need to keep rubbing our noses in it. It gets boring, and I'm sure you have more interesting things to say.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Entre Nous
          I'm sure you have more interesting things to say.
          I'm not.

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          • #6
            Good... those officers need to get in trouble. I think sometimes night shift cops tend to think rules are lax because it's late at night and no one is around. I've heard of cops going home and doing laundry at night.... sigh.

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            • #7
              Suspend me without pay all you want. But how in the world to you make someone work without pay?

              If thats what a union contract gets you I'm glad I don't have one.
              "Why is common sense so rare?" - Me

              By the way.. They aren't "Clients" or "Customers" they're CRIMINALS... sheesh

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              • #8
                Originally posted by scratch13
                Agian this guy has to drag up the anti cop dirt.

                And I would put this type of behavior in the same catagory as sleeping on duty, right sheriff?????
                I have found Sheriff a middle of the road type of guy. I don't how his posting of this article constitutes anti-LEO. There is nothing wrong with digging up dirt, this is what keeps the LE profession clean/honest and weeds out the bads ones.

                If you believe that the article and Sheriff are anti-LEO, than explain why, justify your arguments don't just come and say some blanket statement about someone without facts to back it up.

                I would like to think on this forum/website, the people(including you) here are intelligent enough to discuss and present the facts as they are and not a free for all b!tching session.

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                • #9
                  For once I will agree in "Sheriff"'s favor...the article proves a good point that Officers can and should get reprimanded for not doing their job.

                  I mean if they would have been doing their job, I am sure they would have not wasted a 14 month long investigation on these folks. If they were doing their job in the first place...no reason to investigate right?
                  "An excuse is worse and more terrible than a lie, for an excuse is a lie guarded."

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by irishlad2nv
                    For once I will agree in "Sheriff"'s favor...the article proves a good point that Officers can and should get reprimanded for not doing their job.

                    I mean if they would have been doing their job, I am sure they would have not wasted a 14 month long investigation on these folks. If they were doing their job in the first place...no reason to investigate right?
                    Or email there boss a picture of them that was a joke.......right?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by scratch13
                      And I would put this type of behavior in the same catagory as sleeping on duty, right sheriff?????

                      I tend to think this is worse than sleeping on duty:

                      According to LaBruno, GPS tracking devices used as evidence against Capt. Karen Dimonde - who resigned last month after admitting that she wasn't showing up for her midnight-to-8 a.m. shift

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                      • #12
                        It isn't SHERIFF that puts cops in a bad light - it's the guys constantly insisting on harping and bragging about "doin' the right ting," and allowing cops to violate they very laws they are sworn to uphold.

                        THAT crap, is anti-cop - not this. This is just SHERIFF sharing some info about some maroons making us look bad. Get some, SHERIFF.
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                        • #13
                          From him, yes I consider this a negative post. Why? Because almost all of his original posts are something that show police in a negative light. He also is very much against "rooks" and all one has to do is read just a few of his "I would have done it this way" posts to see this. I am all for learning from others mistakes, do not get me wrong. But he constantly harps on the negative.

                          AND at the same time he cannot own up to anything he has done. See his posts on falling asleep in court. Of course he has a "legitimate" excuse for why he can sleep at his post. Also, he has either been arrested or been under some type of surviellance by the police because others are in some kind of conspiracy to frame him from what I believe that he has said.

                          When I get called out to the same house over and over and the resident there always has some excuse or reason for why they weren't wrong, it gets old. What is that saying? Where there is smoke there is fire or something like that.

                          Listen, for all you sheriff lovers out there. I believe that he has some valid points. I also believe that he can have some useful things to say. He just needs to ease up on all of the constant police f%ck up postings. Some (most) of them are just to show officers in a bad light. I mean, do we really need to have a repost about a police officer getting arrested for child porn????? Do we really not all know that this is a big no no????? There are zero lessons to be learned from this. Why post it then for any other reason than to make cops look bad (by reposting it)?

                          So, I will keep responding to every last negative post he throws up until I get booted. If you all want to see police in a negative light over and over and over again, then fine. Support him. Until he breaks this obvious habit, then you will read my posts or put me on ignore.

                          Most cops are good. Some (very few) are not and I have even posted voicing my opinions against these bad or wrong cops. BUT, and here is the big BUT, I am on the side of cops. Not veteran or retired cops or VA state troopers or northern cops, but ALL cops.
                          "Socrates was a philosopher. He talked a lot. They killed him." unknown to me.

                          "Evil prevails when good men do nothing."

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                          • #14
                            I've been called a "Sheriff-lover" in the past. But I'm just all about giving the guy- or any cop (and yes, he was a cop- it's been verified in other forums)- a fair shake. He's said plenty of things I disagree with, but I address the issue there and I certainly don't take it personal.

                            In this thread, he has not posted anything that's untrue or I disagree with. He's not putting cops in a negative light. The cops that are out there doing bad things are putting themselves is a negative light. If you don't acknowledge it, then some people would construe that as quietly condoning it.

                            That being said, I think that whole investigation sounds like a BS witch hunt. Some people are determined to make their careers on the backs of others. But, I could be wrong.
                            You have no right to not be offended.-Neal Boortz

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                            • #15
                              Actually, Scratch, I too have admonished SHERIFF to come up with some positive stories and on that point I agree with you. SHERIFF does seem to lean toward the negative. But that doesn't make him anti-cop; but rather, PRO GOOD COP.

                              Know what? That's where I put myself as well.
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