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    What other professional career field REQUIRES its employees to foot the bill for their own job skills maintenance?

    In education, teachers are constantly being pressured to 'go back to school', and in some cases, FORCED to continue their academic advancement...or lose their jobs. In every case, teaches pay for this continued education OUT OF THEIR OWN POCKETS.

    Politicians are constantly pressuring schools to 'do better', demanding that teachers be 'better educated'....and leaving it at that.

    The school systems, in 'passing the buck', order their teachers back to school, leaving it up to the teachers to finance their endeavors.

    Tennessee is now considering VOIDING all teaching certificates granted/earned prior to 1994, UNLESS, the teachers holding said licenses return to school and further their studies in their fields of certification.

    Well, Tennessee can just BITE MY ***!
    "When you guys get home and face an anti-war protester, look him in the eyes and shake his hand. Then, wink at his girlfriend, because she knows she's dating a *****."
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    What other professional career field REQUIRES its employees to foot the bill for their own job skills maintenance?

    Attorneys, Private Investigators, Doctors, to name a few.
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    • #3
      Jim, why do you think I left the teaching profession? I remember one day being almost in tears over all the times I was interuppted with paper work, forms to fill out, specialists stopping a teaching lesson to pull a child out, required seminars three hours AFTER school let out, AFTER I had been there since 7am. I remember being so tired several times I would literally come home, eat supper, go to bead and when that alarm went of, my head would spin from fatigue. It didn't help I taught kindergarten so my job was also very physical, keeping up with them all day.
      Then, we were REQUIRED to go visit all of our childrens HOMES TWICE a YEAR. I had 50 CHILDREN. That's when I clashed with my principal. I told her if she wanted to provide me with a police escort to go to some of the areas she expected me to go in AFTER dark,I'd go. Her remark? "Have your husband go with you?" I said, "No,mam, I will not. He has his own job and does not work for the school system. Just sending him with me makes the school system liable for his safety. Are you willing to vouch for that?" Thank GOD they finally stooped those visits. Of course, they just stepped up the number of conferences we were required to have.
      So, I left teaching. And I was a good teacher. And I loved teaching. But that wasn't teaching.

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      • #4
        Nurses, although sometimes the hospital will pick up the tab.
        Paul

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        • #5
          Shooter:

          Good teachers are hard to find, and I think two reasons are the lack of pay, the little demons, and lack of an education reimbursement program. Okay, that's three. Shoot me. I'm sure most of your kids love havin' you as a teach.

          What subjects do you teach?

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          REQUIRED to go visit all of our childrens HOMES TWICE a YEAR.
          Whaaaaaat? That's ridiculous!

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          • #6
            Depending on the agency, I've see a few police depts. that might pick up tuition, but make you go on your days off. Or pay your day, but not the tuition.

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            • #7
              CiaJ...

              THIS year, I teach 5th grade Social Studies. I usually find out what subject I'm teaching 2-3 days before the new school year starts. How's THAT for inspiring confidence?

              My PD picks up the 'tab' on officer training. Fortunately for my PD, there are LOTS of FREE training seminars hosted by Uncle Sugar.

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              Attorneys, Private Investigators, Doctors, to name a few.
              I wonder what the AVERAGE doctor, lawyer, etc makes per year, salary-wise, vs the cost of the 'continued education'? I wonder how many 'professions' TOP OUT pay-wise after ONLY 15 years of service?

              [ 10-21-2002, 03:33 PM: Message edited by: shooter1201 ]
              "When you guys get home and face an anti-war protester, look him in the eyes and shake his hand. Then, wink at his girlfriend, because she knows she's dating a *****."
              -Commanding General, 1st Marine Division

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              • #8
                Shooter, don't forget that the expense is tax-deductible.

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                • #9
                  I taught kindergarten. I had 25 kids in the morning and then 25 new kids in the afternoon. I loved the kids and had some really great times teaching. I still tutor from home, learning disabled and emotionally disturbed. THIS is teaching, but not with insurance benefits, of course.
                  Some of the stuff they required us to do back then they couldn't require now, like visiting kids homes. I didn't mind talking to parents at home but, with 50 kids, there were always some that were loonies. Then, they decided, for safety sake, we would go as teams. We would go to one of my students homes and one of my partners homes. It was a total waste of both our times to have to go to homes of each others students.
                  But things were much different back then. The only thing the same is the dang paper work and rules. It's unbelievable.

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                  • #10
                    Hmmmm....I guess I'm one of the lucky ones...

                    My company will reimburse you for any classes you take to further ones education and they activley encourage it. Ive known of many cases that employees were excused from a work schedule to attend classes.

                    When I went to the LEO classes to become certified as a Part Time Two, I was on night shift from 7PM to 7 AM and I got paid to do it,in fact most of the class time was actually overtime and I got paid time and a half for it.

                    Any class time that goes toward a degree will be paid for as long as you maintain a "C" average.

                    Many of our continuing training classes are actually worth credits.
                    "The American People will never knowingly adopt Socialism. Under the name of "liberalism" they will adopt every segment of the socialist program,until one day America will be a socialist nation without knowing how it happened."

                    Norman Thomas

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