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    California City enacts living wages

    Calif. City Enacts 'Living Wage'

    By GARY GENTILE
    AP Business Writer

    SANTA MONICA, Calif. (AP) — This wealthy seaside community has become the first U.S. city to require private employers to pay a ``living wage.''

    After several years of debate, the city this week adopted an ordinance that will require the city and its contractors, plus businesses in the downtown and beach areas, to pay workers $12.25 an hour, or $10.50 an hour if they provide health benefits. The state's minimum wage is $6.25 an hour....

    What are your thoughts on living wages? Will they assist or hinder both the people and businesses?
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    It will assist in keeping people who are lazy in entry level jobs. To me minimum wage is for kids and and people who really don't want a career or that are just starting out. If you want to make more than that you need to be able to be worth more. If they got rid of all the illegals in California it would help.

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    • #3
      Only the best from the People's Republic of Santa Monica!

      What this will do is drive small businesses, and perhaps many larger ones, out of the city, and a few miles east into the city of Los Angeles.

      I just hope Santa Monica residents won't mind driving out of the city to buy groceries, gasoline (you think that guy in the booth is making $10/hour?), or fast food.

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      • #4
        I have 2 degrees....one in Elementary Education and one in Early Childhood. I was recently offered a job at a new Academy. They were willing to pay me a quarter over minimum wage, I had to clean the boy's urinals and I could not disciplne the children without permission. I had to teach the 2 year olds because they didn't want to upset the 18 year old girl teaching kindergartenwho was getting her GED by giving it to me.
        Nothing against GED's but I was so far overqualified for this. I was willing to teach kindergaten. But 2 year olds and scrubbing the urinals? I don't think so.
        Some people's business sense never ceases for amaze me. I'll stick to my turtoring for which I get $20 and hour.

        [ 07-27-2001: Message edited by: Mitzi ]

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        • #5
          "After several years of debate, the city this week adopted an ordinance that will require the city and its contractors, plus businesses in the downtown and beach areas, to pay workers $12.25 an hour, or $10.50 an hour if they provide health benefits. The state's minimum wage is $6.25 an hour...."

          Think about this .
          If they start paying McDonalds employess 10-12$ an hour, how much will a cheesburger cost ?

          The buisnesses will HAVE to up the cost on everything just to pay for their labor.I think it'll KILL buisness, especially the fast food resturaunts. Will anybody be able to afford it ?

          "The American People will never knowingly adopt Socialism. Under the name of "liberalism" they will adopt every segment of the socialist program,until one day America will be a socialist nation without knowing how it happened."

          Norman Thomas

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Watchman:
            The buisnesses will HAVE to up the cost on everything just to pay for their labor.I think it'll KILL buisness, especially the fast food resturaunts. Will anybody be able to afford it ?
            That's a logical argument, but there's one problem with it.....it's a very old argument that's been disproved time and time again. Business lobbyists have used the same argument against the minimum for decades. It simply doesn't happen in real life.

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            • #7
              Jim:
              "That's a logical argument, but there's one problem with it.....it's a very old argument that's been disproved time and time again. Business lobbyists have used the same argument against the minimum for decades. It simply doesn't happen in real life."

              When was the last time buisness's DOUBLED the minimum wage ?

              Every increase in the minimum wage was a small increment, to give time for adjustments. Itwas done very carefully to avoid major price increases.

              Double the wage overnight and see how much the price of everything goes up.

              The people in California continue to amaze me.

              "The American People will never knowingly adopt Socialism. Under the name of "liberalism" they will adopt every segment of the socialist program,until one day America will be a socialist nation without knowing how it happened."

              Norman Thomas

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              • #8
                I support a living wage, but not by force.

                Back in 'the day', before women permanantly entered the workforce, the payscale was set up for one person to work and support a family by modest means.

                That doesn't exist anymore and I think this actually limits choices. Women rarely make the choice to work, they have to.

                I do not agree with forcing minimum wages, especially this high, and most certianly such an increase so rapidly.

                This will put alot of folks out of business, force others outside the city, force others to raise prices, reduce staff...

                It won't be a good thing almost any way you cut it.

                Are they going to raise everyone else's salary accordingly? I doubt it!

                This will fail big time.
                -Sparky

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