Nobody mentioned the advice I gave to a couple people.... if approached on the street by protestors... tell them... "hey I'm with you guys, I'm on my way to protest right now"...
The car thing did happen to a woman, the protestors were arguing amongst themselves... they were going to make her get out and walk home... I think at that point I'd feel I had to run someone over...
My best advice.... there were a lot of reports as to where the protests were going on, some right in front of my office, some a couple blocks away... avoid them... take a different street if you need to...
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I have a relatively large truck, with a cow pusher (grill guard for you yankees) on the front end, I would just gun it and watch the bodies disapear under my hood.
If the crowd was to thick and the bodies piled up to the point that it prevented my egress, I would start working the 12 guage. When the first few heads start spewing blood everywhere, I think the crowd would thin out, dramatically.
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OUTSTANDING!!
Originally posted by Watchman:
Somebody trying to pull me out of my vehicle ?
It would sound something like this...
Officer....I was being "carjacked" and I feared for my life...I hit the gas thinking I could escape...but when I had to stop, these guys opended the door and started to pull me out...along with my wife and she started screaming...
thats when I pulled out my .45 and warned the people trying to pull us out of the car,as we both feared for our lives....and when they refused I was forced to fire and do 2 tactical reloads....we feared for our lives...we then escaped from the mob and drove directly to the police station for ammo...ummmmm...protection.
Would fit great into the PC when I arrest the dirtbag trying to carjack you, thanks.
Where were all these "protestors" when Saddam was gassing 100,000 Kurds?
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I was forced to fire and do 2 tactical reloads....we feared for our lives...we then escaped from the mob and drove directly to the police station for ammo...ummmmm...protection.
I love it! They should pre-fill police reports with this block for Ofc involved shootings....lol
Avg Joe, I agree with you on the aftermath.....especially in Kali.....I think if a civie with a CCW opened fire, the DA would definitely bring charges......you'd be alive tho!!
[ 03-21-2003, 04:28 PM: Message edited by: xrezrunner ]
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Have to agree with above. I'd hit the gas and let the idiots meet Mr. Bull Bar up close and personal.
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And if that does not work, well, "TRUNK MONKEY"!
Originally posted by KCadet:
I'm with Jarhead.
*Oops! Car went into reverse! Oops! Slipped into drive! Must have a defective car, went into reverse again!*
Ken
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My initial thought was to defend myself with whatever means I had available to end the threat, starting with least and escalating to most lethal: verbal warning, tire iron, display Glock, use Glock, and finally car bumper.
However, I think in reality I would go straight to the bumper force level and get the heck out of there. In that situation there would not be enough time to escalate from warning to moving people with the car. Since life is not like the movies the aggressors would not be coming one at a time, so a 10-shot Glock would only delay the inevitable and if it were truly a mob it would be gruesome if you were overpowered.
The resulting lawsuits from running over people would be staggering though. I can just imagine the lawyers telling the media how I "viciously ran down those defenseless Americans exercising their right to free speech" even though video would clearly show my car being rocked onto two wheels and bricks coming through my windshield
I would do my best not to be there in the first place. Failing that, I would use the car as a battering ram, call a lawyer then call the police to explain what happened.
AvgJoe
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why is it that so many of these big city "peace" protests are organized by socialists, marxists, anarchist, etc. groups???
gee....do you think THAT could be the reason why these "peaceful" protests usually turnout to be anything BUT?
and where on God's green earth do these 18 year old pimply assed college f**** think they know any frikkin' thing about any frikkin' thing??
i was watching the news last night and some little snot nose moron was rambling about the "war for oil" rhetoric. the only thing you know about oil is that your mommy cooks your frikkin' french fries in it.
heaven forbid if they should ever come up with "Smak-o-vision" because i'd be reaching thru the TV screen and pimp slapping a lot of these idiots.
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This is why I has two specially modiefied 20mm cannons installed under the hood, and the spikes that snap out from the tires.
However, if I'm really concerned, I leave the family car at home and drive to work in my M1. It's a gas hog, but when you need it...
Seriously, gas first, then 92.
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I guess it would be considered a social faux pas to administer the coup de grace to someone lying under your rear wheel?
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Peaceful/Others:
In NC, we recognize the doctrine of "unequal combat", as do several other states.
Basically, it allows the use of deadly force against an opponent or opponents, even if they do have a deadly weapon per se, IF their size, ability, or sheer numbers cause you (or a "reasonable and prudent person", whoever he is) to still fear that you are about to suffer death or great bodily harm.
Examples:
130 pound male who is armed is attacked by a 300 pound male who is unarmed.
Female is attacked by a larger male. Female is able to get to a handgun.
Or, the "mob" situation.
Any of these, if you felt you were about to suffer great bodily harm, and could not easily escape, you would be authorized in using deadly force.
I would not hesitate to use deadly force to prevent a mob from removing me from the safety of my vehicle. Doom on them if they mistake me and my vehicle for someone who will just give up.
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Somebody trying to pull me out of my vehicle ?
It would sound something like this...
Officer....I was being "carjacked" and I feared for my life...I hit the gas thinking I could escape...but when I had to stop, these guys opended the door and started to pull me out...along with my wife and she started screaming...
thats when I pulled out my .45 and warned the people trying to pull us out of the car,as we both feared for our lives....and when they refused I was forced to fire and do 2 tactical reloads....we feared for our lives...we then escaped from the mob and drove directly to the police station for ammo...ummmmm...protection.
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Hey XRez -- I have no reason to disbelieve you. It just sounds a bit bizarre. Regardless, my respone would be the same no matter how weird it is.
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