Got pulled over today, boring, boring!

[Jim Burnes]

Today I was driving through North Oklahoma heading home after a CASA visit, when a Osage County Dep pulled me over. Said he was supposed to check out red vans driven by long haired men

Well, I didn't get yanked out, not asked if I had any thing that could shoot or blow up and not even cuffed and beat!

I mean, for crying out loud, he checked my DL, confirmed my CASA and then bid me adieu

Everybody else I know gets all these cool stories of blood and gore...not me man! Boring

Jim Burnes
Old, retired but still game.

[Mike Tx]

Typical case of an incompetant officer. You should have been LOCKED UP! If it was me you would have been, unless of course you gave me one of those old rifles you stole!

[klar]

LOL don't you just hate that Jim I was pulled over the other day after I passed a highway patrol officer for not having any plates (he could not see the temp registration due to tinted windows at night). He was very nice to me and told me to have a nice day after checking to see that I had a valid drivers liscense. I guess I did not get ruffed up either LOL

Klar

[Mitzi]

I agree with Mike. Anyone with long hair should at least be thrown up against the car at least one time! hehehe

[retired]

Klar and Jim Burnes,

Obviously you were stopped by two cops who grew up in the sixties and were flower children. Otherwise they would have smacked you around, uttered a few racial slurs, and written you a ticket for some non-existent violation.

Consider yourselves lucky!

Retired

[207]

Maybe he was profiling Native Americans that day!

Said he was supposed to check out red vans driven by long haired men

Then again he could have a fetish for long haired men.

[Joseph]

Jim how boring you just can't get any kind of action. Hope your luck is beter at home.

[Jim Burnes]

If the TV show 'COPS' ever filmed in that area, all you would see would be a wide, high-crowned gravel road, running straight into the sunset. A mangy coyote trotting along the side, and the sound of the never ending wind. Rolling hills and acres of grassland, bending like ocean waves under the breeze.

That may sound bad to some, but man, it's peaceful!

Jim Burnes

[Don]

I was stopped on the Navajo Reservation a few weeks ago. The two Reservation Kops flatly refused to believe that I had ANY NATIVE AMERICAN BLOOD in me. Said they stopped me because I was NOT Indian, therefore "suspicious." They beat me to a pulp, stole all my whiskey and cigars, then shot out the tires on my Porsche. Then one pee'd on my windshield!

(Of course that was all BS)

I find it very funny that my wife has a true fear of the Reservation Police. She has lived MOST of her life in Arizona and has heard all kinds of stories. Unfortunately, she seems to believe them all . . .

[Jim Burnes]

Some Tribal police are poorly paid, undertrained. Then again, there are many who like other LEO are motivated to strive for all the training available. Excellent folks.

I spent the day today near Tahlequah, OK the home office of the Cherokee (busy week this week) and spoke to several Cherokee Marshalls -our tribal police- whom you could not tell from any other city officers by their professional level of contacts with the population.

The few Navajo tribal police I've known are working alone, on vast stretches of open desert. Their day can involve the same degree of crimes and family abuse, fatal t/a and dumb criminals as New York City. Back up is often more than an hour if at all. So they waste no time in securing some dude that is acting up, or may act up.

Same holds true for the Pima Rangers.

Job security however, is non-existant and depends on the tribal council.

Jim Burnes

[Don]

Originally posted by Jim Burnes:

Job security however, is non-existant and depends on the tribal council.

Yeah, and having seen tribal council politics first hand for many years, all I can say is THAT SUCKS! Those years I spent in Death Valley were probably as close to a "tribal police" situation as most law enforcement officers (who are NOT tribal police) will ever come to that type of experience. They certainly have my respect.

When I was with Imperial County the Quechan Indian Tribal Police were (more or less) a part of our department. They used the county radio cars, were dispatched by our dispatchers, were backed by our deputies and backed our deputies. They had different patches and badges, but to all intense and purposes in the southeastern end of the county you would not be able to tell the tribal cops from the deputies unless you were close enough to read their patches and badges. They did a hell of a good job there.