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  • George Harrison

    another passing from a giant of our generation. he was often times overlooked, but what do you expect working in the shadows of lennon-mccartney. but he did write some great songs and i think a lot of people also overlooked his great guitar playing too. his dry wit was hilarious as well.

    i never had a chance to meet him, but i had spent a lot of time with his sister, louise, back in the late 80's. when i was a professional musician she always invited us to her house for brunch or dinner when we were in the area of sarasota florida. i remember one time when we were there, she played us a tape of "Georgie's new project". this was about 6 months before the album came out. that album was the first "Travelin' Wilburys" album. my condolences go out to her.

    RIP George -- thank you for the great music. thank you for a great period of our lives. you will be missed.
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    Me personally, I think the Beatles are way overrated. Yes, there's a couple of their songs that I like, but right place, right time is what I think of when the Beatles are mentioned. But their music wasn't anything special, they were a bunch of dope smoking hippies that hit it big during a time when way too many people just didn't give a f***!!! It's ashamed that someone like him gets the PR he gets, but when one of our boys or girls in BDU's dies doing their duty, they don't hardly even get mentioned.
    "I will not use my patrol car as a desert prerunner unless in pursuit."

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    • #3
      He died? When, how?

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      • #4
        I once worked for a Corporal who had an intriguing personal theory about the Beatles. According to his oft-repeated list of "facts", they were solely responsible for the downfall of civilization. If you subscribed to his view of civilization, the theory made an odd sort of sense. Questionable, at best, on the cause and effect aspects, but convincing in the delivery.

        Personally, I was never a fan. I preferred the Rolling Stones. At the time, it was not permitted to like both. A reluctant admiration for their musical ability was allowed, but it was strictly one or the other, no compromise, when a choice had to be made. The Dave Clark 5 comparison was the sole province of teenaged girls.

        The corporal's theory still presents an easy appeal, even today. Certainly, the appearance of the Beatles coincided with the beginnings of a sea-change for this country. To lay the responsibility, or the credit, for that change on the sloped shoulders of the Fab Four is more than just a stretch.

        .....but I am saddened by the death of George Harrison. His accomplishments as a musician, composer and songwriter, in my opinion, merit positive recognition. The Beatles made a mark on this country. Some may view it as a stain, others as an enhancement. It's indelibility is nonetheless evident.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Zamboni:
          He died? When, how?
          Last night... died of the Brain Tumer that he has been fighting.
          Education is nothing without experience to back it up.

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          • #6
            TheMdntRdr - apparently you never got your head outta your @$$ long enough to actually listen to their music. if you listened to their musical phrasing, chord progressions, and their indivdual parts you would hear a lot more than the "yeah yeah yeah" of a simple song like "she loves you"

            was timing part of their success? in the beginning i'm sure it was, but they far transcended that as time went on and they grew as musicians and a band.

            i don't claim to know everything about everything, but as a muscian and a life long pupil of music (everything from rock to classical to j*** to county, etc) i feel i can speak from knowledge and experience, unlike you who consider them pot smoking hippies. i'm sure what ever music you listen to is jam packed with pure and pristine indivduals.

            if you don't have any ammo in the gun then don't try to fire it, and stick to what you know you can discuss without making a fool of yourself.

            now if anyone has anything to say that doesn't border on idiocy this thread can continue.

            excuse my rant.
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            • #7
              Rant excused, Nick.....justifiable, even, IMHO.

              But I'm confused just a bit, being new here and all. Do we really need your permission to continue this thread?

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              • #8
                quote:
                "But I'm confused just a bit, being new here and all. Do we really need your permission to continue this thread?"

                dinosaur -- just my feeble attempt at being sarcastic that's all. i am just meaning to say "let's have a discussion about something or someone without troll type posts." it's ok to agree/disagree in a post without making a fool of yourself in the process, that's all. if we all agreed with everything we'd have nothing to rant about here.
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                • #9
                  If you had read more than three words of my post nickg, you would of seen the phrase where I said that I do like a couple of their songs.
                  I also didn't claim that the people I listen to are pristine, I listen to rock, metal, country and other genres. I know they are not all perfect as I am not. But to go gaga over them when they die, all I can say is BFD!!!!!!
                  "I will not use my patrol car as a desert prerunner unless in pursuit."

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                  • #10
                    TheMdntRdr - well then i apologize for maybe misinterpreting your post. it just seemed to me like you were completely dismissing them as talented musicians and just a bunch of "pot smoking hippies". my point was to get past the sometimes simplicity of the "song" and listen to what exactly makes up that song. and i'm sure there is probably some music you listen to that i wouldn't agree as being good as well.

                    i do agree that people go "gaa gaa" over celebrity status regardless of whether it is a musician, actor, sports figure, etc. but maybe they were touched in a way by that person even if they didn't know them on a personal level. as i mentioned, being a musician myself i feel a bond with other musicians and their works.

                    and i do agree that without the celebrity status you wouldn't know some of these people from adam or ever hear of them. and of course there are so many unsung real heroes out there that do go unoticed in everyday life. nobody knows who the heck i am, but if my family loves me then who cares if the rest of the world knows.

                    once again, i apologize.

                    peace love incense sandals beads and nehru jackets to all of you.


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                    • #11
                      the fact as i see it is, the Beatles are all legends whether you were fans or not. they changed music forever and started a real musical "revolution" im my opinion, and no i wasnt a big fan. they were just a little before my time, but i like some of their songs. i think they had great talent in songwriting and getting the feeling of the song out to fans. i see it as the passing of a rock and roll legend.
                      "You did what you knew how to do...and when you knew better, you did better." ~~Maya Angelou

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                      • #12
                        I really wasn't going to comment in this thread, but since it's already had a fight, what will I hurt.

                        I'm sorry he's dead. Why? It's sad to see people fight long illnesses.

                        Am I a Beatles fan? Nope. Yeah, I think a couple of songs were catchy and are fun to listen to once in a while, but I'm with MtnRdr, in my opinion, they're over-rated. If you think they're the greatest band ever, terrific. I personally don't. Doesn't make either of us wrong, we just have different tastes is all.

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                        • #13
                          I am a fan of the Beatles. The music, most of it, really is wonderful. I have a very expensive book with all the music they recorded as the Beatles written out note for note. It is cool.

                          Now I don't really get all upset when they die because people like that live lives that most of us can only dream about. Really think about it and you'll probably agree that we can't even imagine what it must have been like to really be able to do or have ANYTHING you want. That's what people like that live. So I can't mourn the passing of someone like George Harrison. His passing is sad, but in retrospect he had it made and his life should be celebrated.

                          It was because of the Beatles that I learned to play the guitar. I learned, not to join a band, although I could have, but to just play songs that I liked, and to feel what it might be like just for a little bit, to make music like some artists so.

                          My favorite song by Harrison is 'Here comes the sun'. Not the McCartneyized candy sweet version on the Abbey Road album by the Beatles, but the all acoustic guitar version he did live at the concert for Bangladesh. I've seen him do it twice and could never be sure where the hell he put the capo, but once, I did see it on the 5th fret, and once on the seventh. I play it with the capo on the fifth fret. I thought that song, the way he played it was so moving that I learned how to play it almost note for note.

                          Well that's the end of my speech on Mr. Harrison. I used to think it would be cool to meet them, but I probably wouldn't have liked the Beatles for they were socialists and gun banners. So I just enjoy the music. He was just a man, and he, along with his friends, brought much joy to many. And of course they were quite correct. Happiness IS a warm gun! May he rest in peace.

                          [ 11-30-2001: Message edited by: Mike Sullivan ]

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by nickg:
                            it just seemed to me like you were completely dismissing them as talented musicians and just a bunch of "pot smoking hippies".
                            Acutally I wasn't. In my uneducated opinion, I don't think they were that talented musically. It's different strokes for different folks. I listen to a lot of groups that were influence by the drugs and drinking. Just from what I've studied about the Beatles and listening to their music is what has formed my opinion. Oh well.
                            "I will not use my patrol car as a desert prerunner unless in pursuit."

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by nickg:
                              when i was a professional musician

                              Nicky,

                              I had no idea. You'll have to fill me in on this someday (the name of your band, any albums, etc). I'd love to hear about it.

                              Growing up, I was a very big Beatles fan. I wasn't a fanatic, but I loved their music. I used to drive my mother crazy with it.

                              A sad day. My thoughts and prayers go out to him and his family. He will surely be missed.

                              kk

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