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    Okay, I just got back from Raleigh area not long ago. Can one of you southern boys (or girls) please explain exactly what goes in to a NC barbecue. I liked it, but had a real hard time explaining what it was to anyone up here. I wanted to try to make some, but I can't think of what would be in that.
    If there is a tourist season, why can't I shoot them???

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    4n6,
    I used to live in NC and I know live in TX. The BBQ is a night-day difference between the two states (if is still the same from when I was in NC last). NC BBQ was made with pork (simplified, they take most of the pig and grind/mince it, the spices were not the typical BBQ sauce type, more along the cajun hot spices type). The TX BBQ is mainly beef (sliced or chopped brisket), the typical BBQ sauce type. I much prefer the TX BBQ.
    "You have the right to remain silent. USE IT!!"

    "I wouldn't believe you if your tongue was notarized". Judge M. Milian

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    • #3
      4n6,

      I used to live in NC, and although I thought the food was ok, nothing beats the taste of Philly. Where else can you get a cheesesteak made like Pat's or Geno's, Tastykakes, a REAL hoagie (I'm not talking Subway), panzarotti's, a true South Philly pretzel, and then get to wash it down with a Yuengling?? The South can keep their food. Nothing like Philly, that's for sure!

      [ 11-25-2001: Message edited by: kateykakes ]

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      • #4
        Originally posted by kateykakes:
        nothing beats the taste of Philly. Where else can you get a cheesesteak made like Pat's or Geno's, Tastykakes, a REAL hoagie (I'm not talking Subway), panzarotti's, a true South Philly pretzel, and then get to wash it down with a Yuengling?? The South can keep their food. Nothing like Philly, that's for sure!
        i second that emotion
        (and now i'm hungry)
        "You did what you knew how to do...and when you knew better, you did better." ~~Maya Angelou

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        • #5
          Originally posted by kateykakes:


          I The South can keep their food. Nothing like Philly, that's for sure!
          Hey, now!!!!!!!!1

          There's nothing like a slow-smoked brisket (about 6 to 8 hours), BBQ sauce on the side, smoked sausage, pinto beans, potato salad, and apple or cherry cobbler for dessert.

          Or, a slow-smoked pig, with all the above.

          Or BOTH!!

          Nothing against Philly, but BBQ here is the state passtime.
          Optimistic pessimist: Hope for the best, but expect the worst.

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          • #6
            It took me the longest time to get used to the type of BBQ we have around here. I was so used to NC style, this stuff paled. But, now I've learned to embrace it and love it for its own personality and taste. NC style is still the best!

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            • #7
              Okay, I just got back from Raleigh area not long ago. Can one of you southern boys (or girls) please explain exactly what goes in to a NC barbecue? I liked it, but had a real hard time explaining what it was to anyone up here. I wanted to try to make some, but I can't think of what would be in that.
              One of the great quandaries of our time...

              But the plot thickens! Problem is-you didn’t specify if you had “eastern” (vinegar/pepper) based or “Lexington” style (tomato sauce based toppings, but can also include vinegar and/or pepper.) Both are awesome if done right (I can bring myself to speak properly-i.e., “if prepared correctly” when talking about BBQ!)

              Basics:

              It has to be cooked over wood
              You have to overeat
              The fixins’ are as important-red slaw, hushpuppies, tea (it is assumed that means sweetened here) and so on.

              Oh, and start with the Tums ahead of time.

              Try these links: http://www.ibiblio.org/ch-scene/bbq/bbq.html http://www.n2clay.com/articles/bbq/bbq.html

              Posted by the TRAITOR in Philly:
              The South can keep their food. Nothing like Philly, that's for sure!
              Okeydokey…I’ll remember that…

              I’ve ran your PA DMV and know your vehicle and tag. I’ve passed this little bit of anti-NC sentiment on to the troopers working I 95, and you can FORGET about coming back for a “visit.” The “Governor’s Boys” will be waiting for you at the state line.

              PS And I’ve told them that you’d try to flirt your way out of it too.

              PPS I also told them you had a silenced .380 under the drivers seat. No hard feelings?
              People have more fun than anybody.

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              • #8
                That's the spirit, Dave.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SGT Dave:
                  Posted by the TRAITOR in Philly:


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                  The South can keep their food. Nothing like Philly, that's for sure!
                  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------


                  Okeydokey…I’ll remember that…

                  I’ve ran your PA DMV and know your vehicle and tag. I’ve passed this little bit of anti-NC sentiment on to the troopers working I 95, and you can FORGET about coming back for a “visit.” The “Governor’s Boys” will be waiting for you at the state line.

                  PS And I’ve told them that you’d try to flirt your way out of it too.

                  PPS I also told them you had a silenced .380 under the drivers seat. No hard feelings?
                  LMAOOOOO Sgt!

                  Me flirt? Never! Well maybe I'll just bat my eyes once or twice. If that doesn't work, am I allowed to inject a little Philly attitude (as in BITE ME!)

                  The three years that I did live in NC took some getting used to, Sgt. There were a lot of things that I really missed, and didn't realize it until I tried to find them.

                  I'll have to do it all over again, as I will be making my way back down to NC in another year or two. All my family has moved south, and I miss them so much. While I really love the Winston-Salem area, I know I'll still be homesick for Philly for a long time to come.

                  Pssssssst...BBQ isn't all that bad. But what's with putting coleslaw on a hotdog or hamburger? I never heard of that in my life until I lived in NC.

                  [ 11-26-2001: Message edited by: kateykakes ]

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                  • #10
                    Pssssssst...BBQ isn't all that bad. But what's with putting coleslaw on a hotdog or hamburger? I never heard of that in my life until I lived in NC.
                    Slaw Dogs ROCK!I always thought that was normal until I got down here. Same with peanut butter on pancakes. Around here when I do it, people look at me like I've got a third eye.

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                    • #11
                      Posted by Kateykakes

                      >>>Where else can you get a cheesesteak made like Pat's or Geno's, Tastykakes, a REAL hoagie (I'm not talking Subway), panzarotti's, a true South Philly pretzel<<<

                      Hey! You forgot.....SCRAPPLE

                      Germantown Dave
                      Dave Kiefner
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                      • #12
                        Dave,

                        Although I don't eat scrapple anymore (just knowing what's in it turns my stomach), you're right, I should have included it. Wouldn't be Philly without scrapple!

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                        • #13
                          The following is my recipe for North Carolina BBQ; given to me by a relative living in the South:

                          32 0z. Kraft Hickory Smoke BBQ sauce
                          32 0z. Ketchup
                          20 0z. white Vinegar
                          Louisiana Hot Sauce (to taste) approx. 1/3 bottle
                          Black Pepper(2 Tbls)
                          8 0z. honey
                          Boston Butt 1 hr. per pound, salt after 2 hrs.

                          Serve with coleslaw, corn on the cob and Garlic French Bread

                          mmm mmm Hog heaven!

                          I also loved Texas BBQ with pinto beans and potato salad.

                          While in North Carolina, I had the strangest chicken sandwich I have ever had in my life. It was a half deep fried chicken breast between two dry pieces of bread. What is so strange about that? They didn't remove the meat from the bone. At first I thought it was a mistake, but nooooooo, that's the way they serve it.

                          Nell

                          [ 11-26-2001: Message edited by: Neltja ]
                          When you meet someone better than yourself, turn your thoughts to becoming his equal. When you meet someone not as good as you are, look within and examine yourself....

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                          • #14
                            Posted by FLLawdog:

                            Slaw Dogs ROCK!I always thought that was normal until I got down here. Same with peanut butter on pancakes. Around here when I do it, people look at me like I've got a third eye.
                            New name to go with Nite****! FLSLawdog!

                            Oh and BTW guys-don't think we live off that stuff here-I haven't had BBQ in a few weeks, and THEN only because the FD had some left over and made us some plates. Before that, it had been weeks if not months.

                            My favorite place is an old barn in an adjoining county-we usually take 1-2 van loads when we go. You actually turn off a paved road, into what looks like someone's dirt driveway, go about 100 yards, and at their house, turn left INTO A FIELD. The field is the "parking area!" But even with this, I've stood in line 30 minutes. Since I only crave this stuff in the winter (not even I can eat this in the summer-it's too heavy on the gut) I have appreciated North Face clothing BIG TIME out there in that open field! But once you get inside-heh-loooooooooooooooooooo! All you can eat BBQ pork and beef, with two different sauces, and slaw, potato chips and biscuits. And that's it! No buffet, board-of-fare here. Kinda like in the "Blues Brothers" when the lady told them "we have BOTH kinds of music here-country AND western!" This place has live bluegrass bands and "clogging." No I don't clog.

                            It is FAR removed from any town-we had a blast several years ago taking a couple who had just moved here from Cleveland "down there." We reminded them (in a very serious tone) all the way there not to talk "whatever you do" when we get there because "these people are like the people in Deliverance-even WE are outsiders, but they'll just beat the crap out of us, but they'll KILL you!" They actually started believing it! We had them afraid to talk, and he (a truck driver) was wanting to carry his pistol in!

                            Neltja:

                            That sounds like a good recipe!
                            People have more fun than anybody.

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                            • #15
                              SGT Dave
                              That sounds like my kinda place. I'm not that far from you, North GA. Gimme directions! I'm leaving now! After reading these posts I'm starving for BBQ.

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