I have got into discussion with my coworker regard stopping people for speed based on visual estimation. Visual estimation is part of a method use in the operation of a radar. They would not have a radar in their vehicle, but make a traffic stop on a vehicle that was speeding. They also feel that based on their training that they can stop vehicles based on what is called guessing.
My argument is this:
a). The course that they studied was a radar course, not a visual estimation course.
b). The stop is so weak, it can open doors to profiling charges and civil right violations because you are detaining somebody by going by a "guess". How do you know if a person is being stopped because he black or hispanic or his/her state tag from a state know for drug smuggling. Furthermore, you don't have a radar in your vehicle to verify you guess to be correct.
c). They not writing people for the speed violation. But when you're doing 27-29 checks on them, if their license is suspended, you write them for that. Also, they run the passenger in the vehicle too.
d). Some of the guys who is doing the traffic stop have not been to a radar course.
e). They told that my radar training was from a different state and it does not count here. However, the methodlogy of the operational procedure of radar is the same, regardless of what state you got it. The only difference is the state requirement and the understanding of speed laws in that state.
I would LOVE to here from guys, especially troopers and motormen. My opinion is that when you stop a person for speed based on visual estimation only, it is a UNLAWFUL DETENTION of that person and any other law enforcement action is a violation of a person civil rights.
My argument is this:
a). The course that they studied was a radar course, not a visual estimation course.
b). The stop is so weak, it can open doors to profiling charges and civil right violations because you are detaining somebody by going by a "guess". How do you know if a person is being stopped because he black or hispanic or his/her state tag from a state know for drug smuggling. Furthermore, you don't have a radar in your vehicle to verify you guess to be correct.
c). They not writing people for the speed violation. But when you're doing 27-29 checks on them, if their license is suspended, you write them for that. Also, they run the passenger in the vehicle too.
d). Some of the guys who is doing the traffic stop have not been to a radar course.
e). They told that my radar training was from a different state and it does not count here. However, the methodlogy of the operational procedure of radar is the same, regardless of what state you got it. The only difference is the state requirement and the understanding of speed laws in that state.
I would LOVE to here from guys, especially troopers and motormen. My opinion is that when you stop a person for speed based on visual estimation only, it is a UNLAWFUL DETENTION of that person and any other law enforcement action is a violation of a person civil rights.
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