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    Hi, I'm a LT with the NYPD and have heard numerous horror stories about cops down south giving NYPD cops problems if pulled over. I've driven to Florida from NY several times and have never been stopped on i-95, but I was stopped in Florida (local) once and the officer gave me professional courtesy. I'm just curious to know what the "real" perception is.

    As for me, I would show professional courtesy to any cop from anywhere....providing they are showing me respect of course.

    interested in hearing back from you.

    Steve
    NYPD Highway Patrol

  • #2
    kinda hard to say,

    the bad apples are gonna give the good apples a reputation,

    most of south fla has big city attitude, with a lotta yankee

    transplants, such as myself 23 yrs in fla from chicago, and from

    in the city, not suburbia, and a cop for 22 yrs, as of today.

    however you will get these high and mighty types whether they

    are red neck city cop's, sheriff's, or highway patrol that think they

    are gonna save the world, and no matter what everyone gets a ticket.

    this foster's hostility amoung our P.B.A. AND F.O.P. BROTHERS,

    which i do not think would not give professional courtesy.

    with younger officers always joining the ranks, the old timer's who

    want to teach everyone a lesson are retiring and hopefully this will

    become a old war storey to he handed down.

    I've been pulled over on I-95 about 8 times, all of the times by

    f.h.p. , and they are a great group of guys and no lecture , either see ya later..be safe or a hand shake that they ran into another leo.

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    • #3
      Again with the redneck hate???

      I have not ever in 18 years written another copper. I have friends with VSP who feel the same way. The exception being when an officer from our nation's capitol came down 95 at triple digits and then got an attitude when the trooper was not pleased with him. That attitude got him a ticket.

      The whole "bad apple" theory works in reverse, too. If I had stopped an officer from anywhere for 100 plus in a 55 and he got s#@%$y with me, I would have a hard time being courteous with him. That being said, there are those among us who like to push the limits or feel that they can drive anyway they want wherever they want. Personally, I wouldn't put another officer at risk trying to catch up with me when I pass him at 100. And if I did do it and got stopped, the last thing I would do is give him any lip about professional courtesy.

      One of my best friends and co-workers did 5 years with NYPD at the 75th Pct. before he came down here. He fit right in. I don't think any southern cops dislike their northern brothers, but I think I bad attitude from any officer from another agency will leave a bad taste in your mouth if that's the only contact you've ever had with them.
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      • #4
        No Cop Should Ever Write Another Cop....period!!! This Job Is Crazy Enough W/o Cops Screwing W/ Each Other...

        With That Said Though, Dont Do Anything Stupid To Put A Copper In A Bad Spot, Like Hit Somebody Head On Drunk Or Wreck Into A Tree..... Even If You Are Stopped And Are Intoxicated, Cops Should Look Out For Each Other..park The Car And Walk!!

        Remember The Key Word In Police Work ----- Discretion!!!

        Stay Safe!
        ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS, DON'T BLAME OTHERS!!!

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        • #5
          Actually, if you are intoxicated, you should have enough sense (especially being a cop ) to not even get behind the wheel.

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          • #6
            Well it all depends on the nature of the incident,if you are pulled over for speeding and keep your attitude under control and show the proper respect,you get off with a courtsey warning,if you are intoxicated and noone else is able to drive,you may spend the night in jail with a reduced charge of public intoxication in a vehicle reduced from DUI or depends on the size of the dept he may let you sleep it off near the PD and take your keys and drop in to check on you and when his or her shifts end return your keys to you.And your on your way.Remember Saftey rules!

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            • #7
              In my small town experience in North Florida. A cop is a cop and professional courtese is given and received. However, the bad apples we have problems with are the retired cops from up north who move here, and then forget the courtesy thing.

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              • #8
                I can only speak from personal experience. It's not just NYPD but other agencies in general. You see a person speeding and you go to pull them over and they just hang a badge out the window like the are God and dont bother to pull over. Those are the one's that **** me off the most. I've given many freebies over time, but if you wanna be an *****, I can repay the offer also.

                Maybe 50 years ago when only cops or FF's had badges it ment something, but it today's world where you can buy anything on EBay and the like; nah... Not for me.

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                • #9
                  I agree, the guys that hang their badges out the window erk me also, but I still would not write a ticket to them or hassle them, because really..

                  WHO CARES!!

                  that guy might be driving by the next time you have somebody pulled over and save your a^* !! The bottom line is, use DISCRETION!! Stick w/ the brotherhood..sometimes we're all we have out here!

                  Stay Safe!
                  ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS, DON'T BLAME OTHERS!!!

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                  • #10
                    IF you ever drive through my town in east TN, you wont have a problem. We even have a new yorker in our dept. There is no disrespect to the NYPD in my dept.

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                    • #11
                      Southern Hospitality

                      Being an transplanted Upstate New Yorker now in Tarheel country, I think I may be able to give you a fair idea of the feelings down here Lt....with the knowledge that my southern brothers will quickly correct me if I am out of line.

                      After 9-11 myself and many other officers from my dept. went to NYC to help on Staten Island at Fresh Kills to assist NYPD in the recovery/sorting. I had for years been trying to explain "police brotherhood" in the north and more specifically, NYPD. There is professional courtesy down here, (I have been pulled multiple times...and rightly...by many different agencies since I have been an Officer in NC....I was never issued more then "please slow down") but, there are rogues out there who write other officers. That being said, there is not the "brotherhood" that is commonplace up north. A NC state trooper towards the coast wrote two cars of police headed to the beach for a golf trip a couple of years ago. My friends (and coworkers) were blown away by the way we were welcomed with open arms simply by letting the officer we were talking to know that we were on the job as well. From the special honor of being allowed to go to "ground zero", to police escorts accross town, they couldn't understand the way that NYPD treated police not only from another city, but another state. I just grinned everytime we were treated with the love of any NYPD officer as my friends stared in shock and amazement.

                      Lt; I would like to say proudly that because of NYPD's love for their fellow brothers in blue, there is a NC police dept. that now is begining to learn the meaning of the word brotherhood and is slowly starting to come around.

                      I can say without a doubt that 99% of my department of 500 officers would show nothing but the same love for the NYPD and any other "yankee" officers.

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                      • #12
                        The big thing in NC is there is no bargaining entity. Therefore, if you are issued state papers, you can't go to a rep.


                        I have had only one problem with anyone on with NYPD, and it was for 49/25... I just hated the Badge out the window before I even made contact. It was not for a firearm warning, it was for "I'm on the Job" - car still in gear - anticipating to give it gas immediately. Of course it was a warning though.

                        I have other stories, but best left to secure forums.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by hwy3lt
                          Hi, I'm a LT with the NYPD and have heard numerous horror stories about cops down south giving NYPD cops problems if pulled over. I've driven to Florida from NY several times and have never been stopped on i-95, but I was stopped in Florida (local) once and the officer gave me professional courtesy. I'm just curious to know what the "real" perception is.

                          As for me, I would show professional courtesy to any cop from anywhere....providing they are showing me respect of course.

                          interested in hearing back from you.

                          Steve
                          NYPD Highway Patrol
                          I've got family in the NYPD and as officers in Birmingham, Alabama. From what I've seen there is some...friction. But no more than you see between the average "Yankee" and southerner.

                          And yeah, I take a lot of crap from the Alabama branch of the family because of being born there but wanting to be a part of the NYC branch when I finish my time in the military...
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                          • #14
                            A guy I used to work with in Pittsburgh told me this . He went to Mardi Gras a bunch of years ago and they ran into some NYPD guys. He said they were just an awesome bunch of people. Buying drinks, helping them get rides home etc. Really having that 'brotherhood' that probably no other department has.
                            I got nothing for now

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                            • #15
                              I have had stopped many LEO's and have been lucky enough to always meet a courteous fellow officer. Sometimes I take the time to chat with them, most of the time I send them off with a wave. I believe in professional courtesy, as I have been given it a few times. Since we are talking about differences in the north and the south, I thought I would give my 2-piece. I do notice one thing though when I stop cops from the northern part of the country. We get a lot of people from NY, Pa, and NJ ( I work at the beach!). The only thing that bothers me is when I go to pull them over, most of them will "hang the badge out the window". First of all, I can barely see it when I am behind them trying to drive. Second of all, it is so easy to get a badge off the internet, I prefer to make the stop, go up to the person, see their badge AND ID. Thats followed by the "just be safe and slow a little" and a wave. Second of all, if I get one that does stop w/out doing the above mentioned, they flash the badge out the window before I have a chance to get to the window and introduce myself. I dunno about anyone else, but at least let me get to the window!

                              I think the above mentioned makes people think southern cops do not like northern cops, or that southern cops do not show the same "brotherhood" that the northern cops do. SOuthern cops may feel that putting the badge out and all is rude and northern cops may feel disrespected because we may ask for their ID and such. Like I said, everyone I have stopped has always been nice, so I do not know. I also do not know anyone from the north in LE. I think this came up a few times in the professional courtesy thread.

                              I guess to sum it all up, I would say that if you go to another state or region, things may be different. If waving the badge out the window works up north, then great. But when you get out of your area or state, things may be different. It is interesting to read about the differences in agencies.
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