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  • Security Guard Fires on Hit-And-Run Suspect

    Two pedestrians and an apartment complex security guard were hit by a hit-and-run driver. The two pedestrians were killed; the guard sustained a broken leg. A second guard opens fire. The investigation revealed that one of the pedestrians had been shot in the head but it is unclear if it was before or after the crash impact. The investigation continues.

    Two Killed In Bizarre Hit-And-Run Crash

  • #2
    Damn, Did the Security Guard go nutso or what?
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    • #3
      Originally posted by CTR man
      Damn, Did the Security Guard go nutso or what?

      I don't want to start a "police vs security" debate but why do you think he went "nutso'?
      Based on the story if that other guard was in fear of being hit he had alright to fire upon that car. LEOs would have done the same.
      I'm not saying right now he is right until I see the rest of the story, all I am saying is don't bad mouth him just yet.

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      • #4
        The coroner's report indicated one of the victims had suffered a gunshot wound to the head.
        That's the part that I don't get. I understand firing at a vehicle that just hit three people, but how in the heck did the victim get hit?

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        • #5
          Tennsix, shame on you. You know this thread is going to start another hilarious exchange between Bodie and Puget S!
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          • #6
            Originally posted by mosetti
            Tennsix, shame on you. You know this thread is going to start another hilarious exchange between Bodie and Puget S!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by That Guy
              I don't want to start a "police vs security" debate but why do you think he went "nutso'?
              Based on the story if that other guard was in fear of being hit he had alright to fire upon that car. LEOs would have done the same.
              I'm not saying right now he is right until I see the rest of the story, all I am saying is don't bad mouth him just yet.

              TGY
              One has to consider his environment when deciding to implement deadly force. It appears as if the immediate area was not clear as indicated by the one of the pedestrians being shot. It that was the case the guard should not have fired.

              Another point to consider

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              • #8
                Originally posted by anuj
                That's the part that I don't get. I understand firing at a vehicle that just hit three people, but how in the heck did the victim get hit?
                This is just supposition on my part but it sounds like the guard might have shot the pedestrian while shooting at the hit-and-run suspect.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Tennsix
                  This is just supposition on my part but it sounds like the guard might have shot the pedestrian while shooting at the hit-and-run suspect.
                  Sounds like the Security Guard should have taken better aim or as Tennsix says not shot at all since the field of fire was not clear.

                  Tennsix, shame on you. You know this thread is going to start another hilarious exchange between Bodie and Puget S! Quoting mossetti.

                  . Quoting Tennsix

                  You guys tear me up. ROLFLMAO. I hope we don't get banned.

                  Sorry haven't mastered multiple quotes in the body of a post.
                  Last edited by CTR man; 08-21-2005, 12:12 AM.
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                  • #10
                    Had a Security Guard open fire on a shoplifter that was fleeing in a car here.
                    It's tough even as a police officer to get by with shooting at a car unless the car is trying to run you over and even then you as an officer will get tried in the media

                    I feel another Security Vs Cop Debate starting.

                    I do know security companies that the guards are armed but if they ever even pull their gun the compnay soon thereafter "reassigns" them or cuts their hours or sends them to a desk in a cold dark warehouse. It's all about insurance and liability for the company "profits"
                    Last edited by Bodie; 08-21-2005, 08:25 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Sounds like an extremely unfortunate situation all around.
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                      • #12
                        I don't get it guys. I shoot at cars all the time.

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                        • #13
                          We do too in the local junk yard and if a security car drives by oh well .........

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Bodie
                            We do too in the local junk yard and if a security car drives by oh well .........
                            Hahaha, oh Bodie. Don't start with me.
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                            • #15
                              No guns for Security

                              Back in the day before I got on the Fire Dept., I worked for a private security company for a few years. I was sent through firearms "training" because I got moved up to street supervisor & they "had" to be armed. My training consisted of applying for a FOID card, sitting through some classroom stuff, then shooting at a target on a range. After that, I was good to go. I proudly carried around my 357 Taurus, S&W copy revolver in a regular 'ol holster. Now when I look back on it, I thank God I wasn't killed or sued. I had no direction on use, I didn't have a safety holster, I didn't wear a vest, and I had no training in weapon retention.

                              I surely would not want to be armed working at a hospital. It's bad enough trying to deal with combative psych patients and beer muscle drunks let alone worrying about carrying a gun. I believe only police should be armed. Working in Security, arming yourself with a cell-phone is smarter than arming yourself with a gun. Just my opinion.
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