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  • So Few Left Why Did They Leave.

    I just came off a 3 day mini vacation imposed by Officer.com. Details as to why I won't go into. But I have noticed that this site has lost quite a few veteran real law enforcement officers in the past month or so.

    We are seeing and this is just my opinion far too many teens and others trying to act like they are already leo when they have no expereince and no training and in their posts and answers it shows through.

    Many of a breed that are known as "Wannabes" and after just a few words you do just shake your head and mumble "Wannabe".

    We have seen many answers questions in Ask A Cop that if a civilian were to follow the advice given that civilian would or could end up in serious trouble with the very law they came here to ask a question of. Over and over again it has been posted as a reminder that this is "ASK A COP".

    I don't get it why somebody would have such a dull boring life that they would have want to come here and pretend that they are a police officer and have training and experience that their profile and their posts make quite obvious they don't.

    There used to be a solid core group of real cops here from all over the country that ragged on each other and had the thick skin it takes to be a cop. But all that paeras to be left are the weak, the inexperienced and quite a few "not-a-cop" 's.

    It takes an emotionally tough person to be out there day in and day out.
    It takes street smarts and a strong education to survive and most of the time we are not seeing it from some that post here acting as if they are "polce". I am not referring to everybody and only those that this implies to will get angry and respond.

    I have had my say and if it gets me banned so be it.

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    I can not speak for all but I will try to explain why I no longer post here.

    O.com

    When reading through the threads, I never know if what I
    Straight Up

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    • #3
      Drifting

      G'day Straight Up.

      I see by your profile that you class yourself as a Drifter.

      In my country there is a fine line beween a Drifter and a Bludger.

      On the other hand maybe you are a Swag Man who drifts from Station to Station (Ranch) and seeks work in return for a good feed.

      In any case, the old Swaggie (Drifter) always stays clear of the Police Troopers, so my question is, what the **** are you doing on a Law Enforcement Website, worring about the true feelings of the average Plod?

      This is a Law Enforcement Website and as such gets its fair share of School Children and Wannabe Police Officers.

      You wouldn't be another Troll by any chance?

      Maybe we should phone your Parents?

      Cheers.

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      • #4
        I guess, Bodie, that most are just getting plain tired of the incessant BS that is thrown around by all these wannabes, know-it-alls, anti's & the trollers.

        I have recently re-started checking out O.Com after some time away & can verify it isn't what it used to be..

        And when seasoned officers do respond in a direct way (as you have been doing for years on the streets) to these mostly stupid/inane/inflammatory questions/statements, the powers-that-be don't like that.

        Really, who needs the extra aggrevation after all that you contend with at work, to come here & put up with more?

        Well I've said my 5 cents worth for tonight, bye.

        PS: JK nice one.
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        • #5
          Well, I am a wanna be. Not the ones that you mentioned that pretend to be LE, I just really want to be LE and am working to make that happen for me.

          I came to this website to ask real LEOs questions about what to expect and how to better prepair myself for the career that I want. I am incredably thankful that there are LEOs on here willing to talk to me and point me in the right direction. I admire LEOs and am also greatful that I can feel protected because of men and women who have made it their duty to risk their lives every day to protect me.

          The reason I am posting is not to rebel against the thread, as I am not offended by it. The reason I am posting is to ask of you not to dismiss me because I am young. I want to use your information to help me in becoming the best I can be someday, because who knows, I might just have to save your life someday.
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          • #6
            Just a Comment

            If I may offer my .02:

            I don't have any time on the streets as a civilian, and the few months of "road time" at a former duty station doesn't really count (in my book) - as we were on an isolated island (Adak) and NCIS handled all serious calls and investigations. My auxiliary time in GA is just that, auxiliary (crowd control, door checks, assisting dispatcher, booking officer). I do have some time as a BOP CO, but again, that's not street time.

            However, I have a strong desire to serve in LE when my Navy time is over. Two biggest onstacles are (1) my age (I'll be mid-40's when I retire) and (2) My wife. That being said, I know that it is something I need to do, it is where my heart is (please don't ask me to explain), and I will overcome all obstacles between me and my goal.

            I listen more that I talk on this website, as I find the experiences and bits of advice from the Old-Timers (should I say "seasoned officers" instead?!?) informative, and as a guide to help me remember what my goals are. I see a few similarities in the Brotherhood "out there" and the close relationships one forms as a Navy CPO.

            From one who hopes that one day I'll be where you are today, keep posting, regardless. There are some of us that appreciate the "to the point" answers and observations. If I'm able to remember just a small amount of the advcie passed down here, I'll be in good stead when I do make it to the streets.
            Ken
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            I must go down to the seas again to the vagrant gypsy life, To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted knife; And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover, and quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over.

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            • #7
              There was a thread in here that was deleted yesterday talking about why a lot of people are leaving. It has come to the point where we have a lot of wanna bes and when you call them on it, your wrong and your post is deleted and the thread is closed.

              Several people were upset that Bodie took some days off for something he said. A lot of people went to the "other" site

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              • #8
                Bodie,

                Since you refuse to allow contact via private message or email....I will ask you here.

                What do YOU consider to be a "wannabe"?

                I am elegible for certification through the same organization that you are (or were) certified through and I understand that you also teach for as an academy instructor. I do not pretend to be a commissioned officer because I am not. I am however currently actively seeking that commission.

                I don't understand why getting a job... suddenly makes my opinions worthy of posting if they are not now.

                If my posts are in error...just say so.

                Personally, I could give a $hit less of your opinion of me. However, I DO RESPECT your experience. That fact however does not mean that I think you are always right in your opinions.

                I am not offended by this post....but speaking only for myself...have no idea if you are referring to me or not. You have started several threads (that have lead to much of the change/heavy-handedness from O.com) wherein you complain/whine about wannabes.

                How about clearing that issue up and posting YOUR PERSONAL DIRECT AND COMPLETE DEFINITION OF A WANNABE....please.
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                • #9
                  zap zap zap zap

                  You can never take anything said as personal and to take anything said as personal that is on a webiste well we can easily refer to that as being very thinned skinned. You if it is your true desire to be a street officer.or corrections officer must toughen up. And just accept that as constructive instruction.

                  If you take offense to "words" once in training or as a cop you won't last long.
                  You could face termination or if you **** off the right guy on the street you could really face termination.

                  You have to look long and hard at the verbal abuse the badge & uniform take before you decide to take this job. It is hell 24/7 somedays and there are very few true satsifying days.

                  Those that do this and survive truly do bleed true blue.

                  No one who has what it takes to be a cop would ever be offended at being called a "WANNABE" because they would know it does not apply to them.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Bodie
                    It takes an emotionally tough person to be out there day in and day out.
                    It takes street smarts and a strong education to survive and most of the time we are not seeing it from some that post here acting as if they are "polce". I am not referring to everybody and only those that this implies to will get angry and respond.

                    I have had my say and if it gets me banned so be it.
                    I'm not a wanna-be or a wanna-be wanna-be. There is not enough money in the world that would be enough for me to do the job that you all do, so I don't see either why anyone would want to pretend to be a cop. I mean nothing negetive either. I truly appreciate what police officers risk everyday, and thank each and every one of you for that.

                    From a citizens point of view, a lot of us come here to read and learn from other people's posts asking questions. It's very hard to determine if you're getting good information when you don't know who's a real cop and who's a wanna-be. For that reason, I rarely come here (with the exception of the last few days - I was bored and heard there was some drama over here that other message boards don't have).

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                    • #11
                      Hey, I am proud to be a wannabe. But I don't count myself as a "wannabe" like Bodie was talking about--people who pretend to be cops.

                      I haven't been here very long, so I don't know all the stories and such. But through my own personal forum experience, forums are more enjoyable when you don't have to worry about what you say as much. You still have to be respectful, watch your language, etc... but you can usually get by even if you have a bit of an attitude. That is the way myself and my fellow moderators moderate a political crossfire form that is the most popular political debating forum, and it goes quite well.

                      I hope that the officers don't leave, because what would the point of posting here be if they did? I love reading the stories, the advice, etc... It gives me a better look at what I would be getting myself into. Plus, I learn a lot of things to do with officers, like the "turn lights on and put hands on the wheel" thing when you get pulled over. Stuff that makes it possible for me to help officers.

                      Don't leave Bodie. I love your posts. You are hilarious!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Praetorian
                        I hope that the officers don't leave, because what would the point of posting here be if they did?
                        Well it seems that officers are bailing out at an alarming rate!

                        The mods have allowed civilians to take over our (LEO's) board. I understand that its really the mod's board but they put it in place for LEO's. Anytime someone's feelings get hurt on this board they go cry to the mod, and instead of telling them to grow up and toughen up they punish the people that the board was put in place for. The internet is a big place and there is plenty of other places to go, and that's what we're doing. This board is too "touchy-feely" for me. I tell people things they dont like everyday and somehow they survive. But on this board a few security guards "wanna bes" have been allowed to regulate what we say.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Bodie
                          You can never take anything said as personal and to take anything said as personal that is on a webiste well we can easily refer to that as being very thinned skinned. You if it is your true desire to be a street officer.or corrections officer must toughen up. And just accept that as constructive instruction.

                          I do....
                          Certainly no offense taken at true advice from experienced people.



                          Originally posted by Bodie
                          If you take offense to "words" once in training or as a cop you won't last long.
                          You could face termination or if you **** off the right guy on the street you could really face termination.

                          You have to look long and hard at the verbal abuse the badge & uniform take before you decide to take this job. It is hell 24/7 somedays and there are very few true satsifying days.

                          Those that do this and survive truly do bleed true blue.
                          This I truly understand. I always have. Yet, you have to admit however, it is confusing to hear one such as yourself talk about your hight and mighty qualifications (which I do not doubt) .... complain and...well....whine....about "wannabes" on a web forum.



                          Originally posted by Bodie
                          No one who has what it takes to be a cop would ever be offended at being called a "WANNABE" because they would know it does not apply to them.

                          Well there you quit making any sense.

                          You complain about wannabes...in other words...words on a website. Then say anyone who is worthy would not do such a thing.

                          You talk about your experience...and how those with less experience should listen to what you say. Then, on the other side of your mouth, say that if a person here is worth of being a commissioned officer they would not give what you say a second thought.


                          Now....

                          It seems to me that either you are just enjoying stirring the pot because you can....or you just don't give a $hit and argue which ever side you feel like at the moment.

                          So....

                          Once again I will DIRECTLY ASK YOU.....

                          How about clearing that issue up and posting YOUR PERSONAL DIRECT AND COMPLETE DEFINITION OF A WANNABE....please.
                          An impressionable child in a tumultuous world, and they say I'm at a difficult stage... --Meat Loaf

                          Professional Stupidity Recognition Technician

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                          • #14
                            Folks

                            There are hundreds of posts here every day by neither wannabees nor over zealous 'veterans' of this site who feel the need to personally take it upon themselves to publicly punish those they do not agree with.

                            We don't edit people's posts, nor is any of what folks are complaining here about impact but a few posts each week that are over the top.

                            There is no widespread problem here. There are a few non-LEOs that post over the top, and there are a few long-time posters who feel they can do whatever they want. Anyone who feels there is some widespread problems, either a) isn't report it, or b) is reacting to one or two posts out of HUNDREDS (darn near 1,000) each day completely unfairly.

                            Once again, move on to real topics. If you don't like it here, leave, but coming here complaining or some of you who join a bandwagon when you don't know all the facts why someone was specifically banned is not going to continue. Suggesting there are 'so few left' is ridiculously unfair.

                            We do not discuss why people are banned publicly and FEW people are banned and there is CONSIDERABLE leeway given. But when another user is attacked personally and that same user doesn't even bother to take the time to 'report' the post and just goes on bashing ... sorry, "wannabee" or not, that kinda crap isn't going to take place here.

                            Always quick to post the negative, how about the fast reaction to real trolls immediately, banning them, and other 'citizens' who come here only to bash police. Guess that never happens either...


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