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  • New Policy For Austin Police Cars (this is insane)

    August 13, 2005 (News in Texas)
    08/12/05 - 10:15 pm
    New Policy For Austin Police Cars
    www.kxan.com/global/story.asp?s=3717553

    Some Austin Police officers are no longer allowed to chase the bad guys. A new change will affect police enforcement across the city.

    If it's not caught on tape, Austin Police can't pull you over.

    KXAN News 36 has learned starting immediately, officers without cameras in their police cars are no longer allowed to make traffic stops.

    Not only will officers without cameras in their car lose their authority to pull over traffic violators like drivers speeding down I-35, but those officers may also lose something else.

    "To be safe, what we said was if you don't have a camera in your car, until we can get this done, don't make stops," APD Assistant Chief Rick Coy said.

    To make sure that doesn't happen, those officers may no longer have emergency lights on their police car.

    There are only certain police cars that don't have cameras. Those units belong to officers assigned to special units like hostage negotiators.

    "They don't make traffic stops routinely but in case they were to, we would not have that captured on video," Coy said.

    "Fine. If that's the case, let's put cameras in the car. We've called for cameras once. We'll calling for them again," Austin Police Association President Mike Sheffield said.

    Sheffield says it makes more sense to add cameras to the police cars, not to take away their emergency lights.

    "We have a policy that is so restrictive, we're taking the emergency lights out of these vehicles so we can make certain that someone doesn't make a stop cause we don't have a camera in that unit," Sheffield said.

    Coy says this is only an effort to make sure all traffic stops are recorded.

    "We don't want to go overboard on this but we want to do what's right," Coy said.

    Sheffield says it's sending the wrong message to certain officers.

    "I'm not in a car that has a camera so unless I see something that is absolutely an emergency situation, I don't get involved because I don't have a camera in my car. That thinking is de-policing," Sheffield said.

    Officers in a car without a camera can initiate a stop only if it is an emergency, but Sheffield says that's open to interpretation and asks if you want officers second guessing themselves about that because they're afraid of violating the new policy.

  • #2
    The whole thing is just silly....cameras themselves are overkill 98% of the time.

    Maybe they have some way of keeping track of everything that gets taped. Out here, we tried this route in some traffic cars but they found maintaining the evidence was a nightmare.
    "Get busy dying or get busy living".....Andy Dufrain, Shawshank Redemption

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    • #3
      that is one of the dumbest thing's I have ever heard. What if the cop has a camera but he is looking to the side when the crime is seen by the officer..? it's not on camera so he can't ticket him.. stupid bull**** if you ask me.

      Originally posted by SW4747
      August 13, 2005 (News in Texas)
      08/12/05 - 10:15 pm
      New Policy For Austin Police Cars
      www.kxan.com/global/story.asp?s=3717553

      Some Austin Police officers are no longer allowed to chase the bad guys. A new change will affect police enforcement across the city.

      If it's not caught on tape, Austin Police can't pull you over.

      KXAN News 36 has learned starting immediately, officers without cameras in their police cars are no longer allowed to make traffic stops.

      Not only will officers without cameras in their car lose their authority to pull over traffic violators like drivers speeding down I-35, but those officers may also lose something else.

      "To be safe, what we said was if you don't have a camera in your car, until we can get this done, don't make stops," APD Assistant Chief Rick Coy said.

      To make sure that doesn't happen, those officers may no longer have emergency lights on their police car.

      There are only certain police cars that don't have cameras. Those units belong to officers assigned to special units like hostage negotiators.

      "They don't make traffic stops routinely but in case they were to, we would not have that captured on video," Coy said.

      "Fine. If that's the case, let's put cameras in the car. We've called for cameras once. We'll calling for them again," Austin Police Association President Mike Sheffield said.

      Sheffield says it makes more sense to add cameras to the police cars, not to take away their emergency lights.

      "We have a policy that is so restrictive, we're taking the emergency lights out of these vehicles so we can make certain that someone doesn't make a stop cause we don't have a camera in that unit," Sheffield said.

      Coy says this is only an effort to make sure all traffic stops are recorded.

      "We don't want to go overboard on this but we want to do what's right," Coy said.

      Sheffield says it's sending the wrong message to certain officers.

      "I'm not in a car that has a camera so unless I see something that is absolutely an emergency situation, I don't get involved because I don't have a camera in my car. That thinking is de-policing," Sheffield said.

      Officers in a car without a camera can initiate a stop only if it is an emergency, but Sheffield says that's open to interpretation and asks if you want officers second guessing themselves about that because they're afraid of violating the new policy.

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      • #4
        Wait until an officer does not take action b/c he does not have a camera and then come citizen sues because of it. How stupid.
        In law enforcement, the customer is ALWAYS wrong.

        In God we trust. Everyone else is run through NCIC.

        Sometimes there is justice. Sometimes there is just us.

        I'd rather be tried by 12 then carried by 6.


        The opinions given in my posts do not necessarily reflect the opinions, views, policies, and/or procedures of my employing agency. They are my personal opinions only.

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        • #5
          Euh.... we don't even have cameras in our cars.....
          So what we see is what happened.... and what the costumer has to pay for....

          For example:
          driving through a red light = 175,00 euro's (217,73 USD)
          Ignoring an order from a police officer = 525 euro's or 300 euro's for foreigners (653,18USD - 373,25USD for foreigners)
          wrongly parked = 50 - 100 - 150 euro's, even for 5 seconds! (62,21 - 124.42 - 186,63USD)

          Don't come to Belgium with your car....
          And this is not taped! If I see it, you have to pay.....
          www.rijkswacht.com

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          • #6
            Wow, I never read such bull$hit article.


            First they are taking lights off of vehicles due to no camera in the squad car. WOW. What happens if there is an emergency and the person driving a slick top, and he can't get through the traffic. HELL YOU HAVE A HARD ENOUGH TIME WITH LIGHTS ON THE SQUAD CAR TO GET THROUGH.

            Second I haven't checked lately but aren't police officers post to tell the truth. So you see a car that ran a red light, its your word against the suspects word. Thats why the fathers of this Country made court systems so people can fight the charges.

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            • #7
              don't wanna give my agency any idea's.....but sounds like sumthing we would do...!
              " if you talk in your sleep, don't mention my name....
              " if you walk in your sleep, forget where you came....

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              • #8
                Originally posted by sflcop
                Wait until an officer does not take action b/c he does not have a camera and then come citizen sues because of it. How stupid.
                Don't know about Florida but in California, the law says there is complete civil immunity for failure to act, unless a promise of protection was specifically made. (I.e., "just call us whenever your husband beats you and we'll be there in five minutes.")

                However, I do agree - it's stupid to take code 3 equipment out of cars for the reasons stated.
                Going too far is half the pleasure of not getting anywhere

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                • #9
                  Back in the day, I wouldn't have known what to do with a camera
                  Be alert...the world needs more lerts!

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                  • #10
                    I think we may have a winner for most retarded administration ever.


                    Go Team!
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                    • #11
                      Ok, so they remove the lights for traffic stops, what about all the other calls you use lights to get to? Now the HN can't run code to any calls for fear he may have made a traffic top??? That is insane!
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                      • #12
                        Wow, even security guards have lights.
                        Guns don't kill people. Chuck Norris kills People.

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                        • #13
                          Austin is the only liberal city in Texas.

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                          • #14
                            This has nothing to do with the city being liberal, this is the administration being chicken sh*ts. So afraid of the liability shadow that they shoot themselves in the foot.

                            SFLcop is right, someone is going to sue.
                            Illegitimi non carborundum - Don't let the bastards grind you down.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by davidh304
                              [SIZE=3]I think we may have a winner for most retarded administration ever.

                              There are worst out there.

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