twelve ( 12 ) hour shift deployment questions

[Jesenovec]

I am looking for whatever advice, policies, general practices anyone has on twelve ( 12 ) hours shift deploment schedules. We are trying to convince our chief to go from 8s to 12s. How do you handle call-offs, overtime, sick time, etc? How do you work in kellys days? Does anyone have frontloaded kelly days? How do you adjust (or don't you) if someone is in training for a day or on funeral leave, etc? Do 12hr plans decrease overtime? Does anyone have any research? Please send what you have to [email protected] . Attachments are fine.

Thanks in advance.
Jes

[dannmann1050]

What exactly is a "Kelly" day for those that are not from OH?

[Jesenovec]

Kellys Days

I've come to find out that although the term "kelly days" is used across the country, many people refer to them by a different name. Kelly days are when you work more than 80 hours in a 2-week period due to twelve hours shift. The extra 4 hours is not paid in overtime or time-and-a-half compt time. It is given back as a kelly day which is sort of like compt time. Some departments have specific days they must take off for the kelly day, some just put it in a kelly bank like comp time.

[dannmann1050]

Oh..Ok..

Being in FL and having quite a few agencies that work 12's... I never heard of that term.. Thanks for the info.

[LE206]

Ive worked both 8 and 12 hour shifts. I prefer the 12 hour shift because the schedule looks alot better, I get a 3 day weekend every other week. Gives me something to look forward to when the shifts just seem to crawl by

[e-man]

edited- wrong response
SORRY

[RwHJR3]

I live in S. Florida, and most agencies that I know of dont have Kelly Days. Firefighters have Kelly days, not Police. I work 12hr shifts. 4 day on, 4 days off. I love it. All overtime can be turned into cash, or comp time. We get a certain amount of sick/vacation/personal time per year.

[olnacl]

Our 12 hour schedule is as follows:

A Shift: Thur/Fri/Sat/ every other Sunday off

B shift: Mon/Tue/Wed every other Sunday off.

So if you were on A shift your 2 week work schedule would be:

Sunday Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday Saturday
Week 1 off on on on off off off
Week 2 on on on on off off off

One of the 7 days you work during the 14 day pay period would be an 8 hour day. This keeps you from having a "Kelly" day and gives you 80 hours for a 14 day pay period.

Most of the guys who work nights on this schedule will trade out thier time if they have to go to court i.e. you're in court for 3 hours and you have to be at work that night, you come in 3 hours later, leave 3 hours early or work the 12 hour shift and put in for ot/comp time. Sometimes they will make it their day i.e. have to in court at 1300 so instead of working 1900-0700 that day, they will work 1300-0100. Of course it all depends on manpower if they are allowed to do that.

[sflcop]

I live in S. Florida, and most agencies that I know of dont have Kelly Days. Firefighters have Kelly days, not Police. I work 12hr shifts. 4 day on, 4 days off. I love it. All overtime can be turned into cash, or comp time. We get a certain amount of sick/vacation/personal time per year.

RWHJR3... schedule sounds like the agency I used to work for. What agency...? PM me.

[webjeep]

A side B Side
Mon on Mon off
Tue on Tue off
Wed off Wed on
Thu off Thu on
Fri on Fri off
Sat on Sat off
Sub on Sun off

Three 11.5 hour shifts, 0530-1600, 1500-0230, 1800-0530

It comes out to 80.5 hrs over two weeks. OT is cut back a bit since you typically have better coverage than 8's so it will save the dept $$. The troops like it because you get a three day weekend every week and if you want to take a trip or something on your short week you only have to burn two leave days.

-web