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    This is a letter sent out in regard to a Point Pleasant Police Officer
    giving
    a New York City Police Officer a summons.


    Point Pleasant Police Dept.
    Point Pleasant, New Jersey 08742

    Dear Sir:
    On August 2, 2002, I had the misfortune of meeting Police Officer C.
    Gunning
    on Carter Ave. As I was unloading my family for a day on the beach,
    and
    my
    back was turned briefly, Officer Gunning issued me a parking summons.
    I
    explained to him that I was an active Police Officer in New York City
    for
    15
    years and he still proceeded to write me. After he handed me the
    summons,
    I
    was sick to my stomach upon observing his World Trade Center breast
    bar
    above
    his shield. After 9-11-01, I worked 12 hour tours for several months
    without
    any days off. I also explained this to Officer Gunning, but to no
    >avail.

    Officer Gunning has no idea of the stench of death or the magnitude of
    destruction at Ground Zero that I witnessed, except for what he saw on
    TV
    or
    read in his local newspaper. I lost two friends that were Police
    Officers
    in
    that attack and Officer Gunning has the nerve to wear that "WTC"
    breast
    bar
    that belongs to the Police Dept. that I work for, and the city that I
    lived
    all my life. He issued a brother Officer a summons and doesn't know
    the
    words, "Professional Courtesy"

    He single handily made me lose faith in the common bond that Police
    Officers
    share throughout this country. But this feeling was only temporary.
    Because
    I know that cops like Officer Gunning are very few. I never wrote
    family
    members of cops, let alone cops themselves. But I will be sure to let
    my
    brother Police Officers know, all 30,000 of them, how Pt. Pleasant
    Police
    treat other cops and to show them the same courtesy and respect that I
    was
    shown. If we don't have each other, especially after 9-11, what do we have?

    [ 09-28-2002, 10:52 PM: Message edited by: All4NY ]

  • #2
    I don't know, I could be wrong, but are you a troll?

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    • #3
      uhh Mike, I don't think he is a troll. He has a legit web site that was posted here a few days ago. I checked it out, it's pretty good, but it's definately no O.com! It is titled the same as his login name.
      In valor there is hope - Tacitus

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      • #4
        What exactly is a troll???
        Look everyone.
        I know I sound like a nut.
        Im just a person whos brother was a cop.
        That really should not need to be said.
        If a troll is someone who tries to sneak in there website or spam it?
        Then I guess I am,but being the site is non-profit and made for people that risk there life for a living I really cant be a bad person to troll that!

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        • #5
          Listen All4Ny, calm down. We know you are not a troll. A troll is someone that "invades" forums and tries to get a bunch of crap started by posting things that will begin a debate. They are just plain ***holes. The reason you were pointed out as maybe being one is because there have been a lot of invasions lately. Everybody is on their feet looking for them. Just wait, when they find your site they will hit. If I were you that "shout out" where you can post "annonymously" I would definately change. they will be putting all sorts of stuff on there that is anti-LE, vulgar, etc.
          Just my 2 cents.
          In valor there is hope - Tacitus

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          • #6
            Playing devils advocate here, was the NY LEO actually breaking the parking regulations?
            If so, he should really swollow the ticket. I appricate he's gone through alot but you can't start getting out of ligit tickets with that as a reason.
            What if a member of the public was ticketed at the same time, and the NY LEO's was torn up and theirs wasn't. What if they had also lost friends / loved ones in the WTC.
            Next thing will be "hic, sorry ocifer. Didn't see the stop line. Oh, BTW, I'm a cop so let me off the DUI"
            Whilst Officer Gunning could clearly have benefited from a quick word with the aggreaved party prior to the ticket being issued..."Sir, are you aware this is restricted parking?" "Oh thank you officer, I wasn't. I'll go straight away", he has actted properly IMHO. [Frown]
            The artist formerly known as Soho Bandit

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            • #7
              BTW, like the site. Keep it up.
              The artist formerly known as Soho Bandit

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              • #8
                We grieved with you, All4NY. We still do. But you should never use the WTC tragedy as an excuse to get out of a ticket anyone of us would have been issued. Using that as an excuse is using the tragedy to your own benefit. None of your lost comrades would want that. You know that.

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                • #9
                  Wasn't just this type of thing covered recently in "discretion" thread.

                  I'm pretty sure we all would have "been there, done that" from both sides of the ticket book.
                  allblacks.com

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                  • #10
                    quote:
                    Originally posted by All4NY:
                    What exactly is a troll???
                    Look everyone.
                    I know I sound like a nut.
                    Im just a person whos brother was a cop.
                    That really should not need to be said.
                    If a troll is someone who tries to sneak in there website or spam it?
                    Then I guess I am,but being the site is non-profit and made for people that risk there life for a living I really cant be a bad person to troll that!

                    Sorry for the association. This place gets a lot of weirdos. Hey, I'm here!

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                    • #11
                      Frogman,

                      quote:
                      Originally posted by Frogman:
                      Not only have I written & arrested family members of cops on occassion before, but I've also arrested other cops before.
                      I believe in professional courtesy as much as the next guy, but there are times when you can't overlook things because it's your job.

                      I like you have arrested other cops, and the family of other cops. But a stinking parking ticket to another cop while he was there? Hell, I wouldn't have written a civilian under the same circumstances. Based on the information presented, I don't think I would have written the cop.
                      Retired

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                      • #12
                        Oh, I don't think he should have been written either. But I know his fallen comrades would not want the tragedy to have the connotations of their co-workers using the tragedy as an excuse to get out of tickets either. It was not that hard of a call...He should not have been written based on the fact he was there and lost so many friends and co-workers.
                        But, I've learned in life that no one gets a free pass. If we had, my life would be a lot easier. My son would not have become ill, my H would not have lost his job. It's the way life is sometimes and we have no choice but to accept it.

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                        • #13
                          Just for the record:I never said I agree with the letter.Your right tough you should never use the WTC event foe any type of benefit.
                          One thing I also noticed in that letter is it never states he showed a badge or anything.
                          Anyone can say there a officer.

                          [ 09-28-2002, 07:52 PM: Message edited by: All4NY ]

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                          • #14
                            It also sounds to me the writer of the letter was a FORMER cop. True?

                            I expected a level of professional courtesy when I was in LE also, but I NEVER demanded it, or complained when I did not receive it.

                            I was not above the law.
                            "Speed is fine, but accuracy is final"--Bill Jordan

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                            • #15
                              Tx,

                              quote:
                              Originally posted by txinvestigator1:
                              It also sounds to me the writer of the letter was a FORMER cop. True?

                              I expected a level of professional courtesy when I was in LE also, but I NEVER demanded it, or complained when I did not receive it.

                              I was not above the law.

                              The way I read the letter, he was still a cop at the time of the incident, even though he may not be one now.
                              Retired

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