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  • Wyoming Police Agencies court ordered to avoid "hog-tie".

    The wrongful death lawsuit by the Thomas Cruz family has resulted in a ruling by the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals in Denver, Co. The Court ruled that the technique of "hog-tie" is a violation of the victim's Fourth Amendment Rights agains excessive force. The Court also ruled that, Officers cannot apply the "hog-tie" technique when a suspects diminished capcity or intoxication is apparent.Mr Cruz, who was high on cocaine, was arrested by the Laramie, Wy. Police in 1996 after he was reportedly running around a apartment complex naked. After he was arrested he was placed in the "hog-tie" when he became increasingly violent towards the officers. An Autopsy revealed large quantities of cocaine in Mr. Cruz system. The Court ruled that the "hog-tie" could cause positional asphyxiation.

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    They should have hired Calibre Press. They've testified on several PA cases and won.

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    • #3
      The court there is wrong, wrong, wrong! No one has ever died from positional asphyxia. The doctor (quack) who originally posited that theory has since recanted. Cruz likely died from the drugs in his system. It is no surprise that a judge is wrong, however. It is easy for them to sit in their black bathrobe high on the bench and tell the world how to run when they have never experienced life outside the courtroom. Shakespeare's quote comes to mind.
      Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. - Ronald Reagan

      I don't think It'll happen in the US because we don't trust our government. We are a country of skeptics, raised by skeptics, founded by skeptics. - Amaroq

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      • #4
        They tried to say a prisoner here died because he was hogtied. But the cause was actually sleep apnea. He had become violent so they hogtied him in his cell. He began snoring really loudly then stopped and they thought he was asleep. He had actually quit breathing and died. The court ruled against any disciplinary action because, with sleep apnea, you can die in your own bed while sleeping.
        I had sleep apnea and didn't know it. Finally ,when my husband could no longer deal with my snoring, I went to a specialist. I had to go to a Sleep Clinic and spend the night hooked up to momitors. I quit breathing 38 times during the night. I had "terror" attacks where I would jolt awake and be scared to death. It was because I had quit breathing and my brain suddenly woke me up. But, the technician was right there to wake me up and was going to do so when I jolted awake.
        I've had surgery and now sleep better and no longer snore.

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        • #5
          In my haste I forgot to add the link to the news story in the Wyoming Casper Star Tribune. www.trib.com

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          • #6
            We haven't hogtied anyone in several years. Corsicana PD (Texas) had one die on them and after the civil suit was settled most Texas agencies stopped that practice.

            As I remember that guy had coke in his system too.
            "Trust me. I'm from the government, I'm here to help."

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            • #7
              Hog-tying is so taboo around here already, I imagine that when this news hits, it'll become policy to never use it. I've suggested those expensive "humane" restraints,the kind that strap the suspect in a flat lying position. I still haven't seen one purchased. I don't know of any other way to control a violent suspect. It sucks that we are responsible for their death, when they put themselves in that condition and force us to use additional restraints.

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              • #8
                Maybe the judges will let us use their cars to transport them in then

                Simply put...I've had subjects so out of control that AFTER hogtying, they did $5,000 damage to a patrol car.

                I wish life WAS as perfect as the judges think it is.
                People have more fun than anybody.

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