Didn't mean to offend...

[vbrenner]

any of the management types here with my reference in the cell phones thread with the reference to "brass know-nothings." Sorry. I was referring to the chiefs who you see sharing the stage with politicians and usually espouse liberal causes (gun control, etc.) that real cops are against. I know none of you are in with that bunch.

[wonderwoman]

I just knew you meant that!!!
However, I am used to the feeling of isolation in "management issues".
In fact I will probably be your only post!!!


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[Don]

Don't feel bad vb. Most of us here have ragged on management/administration a number of times. Shoot, I seem to remember even ww got - uh, aw nevermind!

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[mac90]

Speaking of management types, it seems to me the reason 'they' want college grads, is that they are more apt to be the liberaized brainwshed type who'll do along with PC whackery.

[goodgirl]

Mac...are you calling conservatives uneducated? Just curious

[mac90]

No not at all.

[goodgirl]

Glad to hear it

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[wonderwoman]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by mac90:
Speaking of management types, it seems to me the reason 'they' want college grads, is that they are more apt to be the liberaized brainwshed type who'll do along with PC whackery.

Mac, was this meant for me to respond to?

[mac90]

No Dear, it means that in my opinion many people who go to college, since many colleges are bastions of the left, that some people hiring them may want to hire those types for that reason, and that those 'programmed' that way, are more likely to believe unconstitutional bullsh*t.

[goodgirl]

So it is better to not learn about the Constitution at all?

Seems silly reasoning...

For the record: I have never been to college, some of us get to be brainwashed all on our own

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[wonderwoman]

Okay Moose, want to see an article that will make you mad?

On second thought why would I want to make you mad eh?

Back to education.... I am a strong advocate against unnecessary credentialism. I feel this leaves out alot of good potential applicants, especially those who can't afford continuing education or aren't in a position to continue their education.

In our system if the job doesn't require a degree to perform the essential duties of the position then you don't get any bonus marks for having more degrees then the next person. However, this does not mean that employers don't like to hear that you are continuing to learn in some manner.

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[Sotex]

Heck, none taken. I'm the only full time PO in this town, so I'm the chief by default! Also, I've worked under and with(and against!) the people you ARE refering to, and know full well what you meant.


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[goodside]

OOOOhhhhhh Chief.

[JKT]

While not all admin types are pains in the rear , there are those that are. Our department-level adminstrators sometimes try to set policy without hearing the whole story, but are willing to listen, most of the time.

I have worked for the other type, too, that wouldn't listen to anything the troops had to say. They knew everything, just ask them!

By the same token, a lot of the troops have never tried to maintain and manage a multi-million dollar budget, and don't realize the headaches involved. I was guilty of this until I received my current assignment several years ago. My supervisor controls the budget for our detention division, and I get to see first-hand how difficult it can be. Especially toward the end of the fiscal year.

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[mac90]

Goodgirl, i'm not making you understand. I do not say it is bad to be educated. I say that since many institutions of higher learning are filled with leftist ideas and disdain for some of what America stands for, and that many upper management people are hired because they, have been 'educated' in these environments, are more likely to go along with political correctness.


WW, that's MR. MOOSE to you...

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