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  • Holder limits seized-asset sharing process

    Holder limits seized-asset sharing process that split billions with local, state police

    Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. on Friday barred local and state police from using federal law to seize cash, cars and other property without proving that a crime occurred.

    Holder’s action represents the most sweeping check on police power to confiscate personal property since the seizures began three decades ago as part of the war on drugs.

    Since 2008, thousands of local and state police agencies have made more than 55,000 seizures of cash and property worth $3 billion under a civil asset forfeiture program at the Justice Department called Equitable Sharing.

    The program has enabled local and state police to make seizures and then have them “adopted” by federal agencies, which share in the proceeds. The program allowed police departments and drug task forces to keep up to 80 percent of the proceeds of the adopted seizures, with the rest going to federal agencies.

    “With this new policy, effective immediately, the Justice Department is taking an important step to prohibit federal agency adoptions of state and local seizures, except for public safety reasons,” Holder said in a statement.

    Holder’s decision allows some limited exceptions, including illegal firearms, ammunition, explosives and property associated with child pornography, a small fraction of the total. This would eliminate virtually all cash and vehicle seizures made by local and state police from the program.

    While police can continue to make seizures under their own state laws, the federal program was easy to use and required most of the proceeds from the seizures to go to local and state police departments. Many states require seized proceeds to go into the general fund.

    A Justice official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity in order to discuss the attorney general’s motivation, said Holder “also believes that the new policy will eliminate any possibility that the adoption process might unintentionally incentivize unnecessary stops and seizures.”

    Holder’s decision follows a Washington Post investigation published in September that found that police have made cash seizures worth almost $2.5 billion from motorists and others without search warrants or indictments since the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001...
    continued @ http://www.washingtonpost.com/invest...ddc_story.html

  • #2
    For someone who has tendered his resignation, he sure is making certain that every public safety agency in the country despises him.

    This country can't be rid of him fast enough.
    There once was a man who said: "Though,
    it seems that I know that I know,
    what I'd like to see is the I that knows me,
    when I know that I know that I know."

    - Alan Watts

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    • #3
      Should charge him under RICO...
      Now go home and get your shine box!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by [email protected]
        Am I really going to be the only person who admits that there are serious problems with civil asset forfeiture and that this is only a start to what really needs to be done?
        I've been saying there's a problem for a long time but I'm not a cop.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Loren Pechtel View Post
          I've been saying there's a problem for a long time but I'm not a cop.
          Don't feel bad, he's not a cop either.

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          • #6
            And neither of them have the foggiest idea what they continue to try to talk about here no matter the topic.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by [email protected]
              I would wager that I'm more familiar with the issues involved in civil asset forfeiture than you, based on your well sourced opinions on other things that you've generated.
              AND another subject matter expert
              Since some people need to be told by notes in crayon .......Don't PM me with without prior permission. If you can't discuss the situation in the open forum ----it must not be that important

              My new word for the day is FOCUS, when someone irritates you tell them to FOCUS

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              • #8
                Johnny I'm very sure you have no clue about anything based on your posts thru out this site.

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                • #9
                  It's not really fair to blame Holder for this. Civil Asset Forfeiture has been generating bipartisan outrage lately. Incoming Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman, Republican Senator Grassley had sent Holder a letter asking for change, and has promised to do more legislatively in this session of Congress. See below:

                  http://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/...se-civil-asset

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Steve856
                    I never understood how civil asset forfeiture could be considered constitutional, or even just. I find civil asset forfeiture morally reprehensible, and a big stain on our system of justice.

                    Can anyone point me to a source that would persuade a reader to see that civil asset forfeiture is fair and just?

                    Thank you!
                    Oh look, O.com's very own legal expert (patent attorney?) is back. Do your own research.
                    Originally posted by RSGSRT
                    We've reached a point where natural selection doesn't have a chance in hell of keeping up with the procreation of imbeciles.
                    Why is it acceptable for you to be an idiot, but not acceptable for me to point it out?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Aerohead View Post
                      Oh look, O.com's very own legal expert (patent attorney?) is back. Do your own research.
                      No schitt

                      Besides.....................I don't know how to "persuade" a closed mind of anything.

                      Originally posted by Steve856

                      Can anyone point me to a source that would persuade a reader to see that civil asset forfeiture is fair and just?



                      By the way------------We have another "subject matter expert" on Police Traffic Procedures in another thread beating a horse that died several years.
                      Since some people need to be told by notes in crayon .......Don't PM me with without prior permission. If you can't discuss the situation in the open forum ----it must not be that important

                      My new word for the day is FOCUS, when someone irritates you tell them to FOCUS

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                      • #12
                        Holder is just scared they will seize his illegal crap.You got to cover your *** while you have the chance i guess,seizing cash and cars from drug dealers is so bad i guess in his eyes.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by jdthor View Post
                          And neither of them have the foggiest idea what they continue to try to talk about here no matter the topic.
                          The reality here:

                          1) This does nothing to prohibit seizures. It's only about sharing. If you think there's a law enforcement reason to seize you still can.

                          2) This is meaningless except in those states where the state government has already imposed such limits and the police were using the federal sharing to do an end-run around those limitations. If the measure is wrong, take it up with the states rather than protest the closing of the loophole.

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                          • #14
                            No its just one more step of Holder trying to show and prove his anti police agenda.

                            First he says all police need to be retrained because a punk assaulted a officer and got killed for it,then call for them to not get surplus military equipment that is badly needed in most cities because certain people say the police are looking to much like the military and are scaring their poor little selves, while they are throwing home made bombs at police cruisers and using AK 47 s to shoot at officers and firemen when they arrive at calls.
                            So now this helps cut off the seizure of drug money using federal statutes . Again who were the ones most of this was being seized from ? Not you or i .The federal law made it easier to to do this.It continues to follow his same plan hes been doing against law enforcement for years.

                            "A Justice official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity in order to discuss the attorney general’s motivation, said Holder “also believes that the new policy will eliminate any possibility that the adoption process might unintentionally incentivize unnecessary stops and seizures.”

                            Im sure you can follow the logic and follow the money also.Crooks in power also try to protect their kind .
                            Last edited by jdthor; 01-19-2015, 02:20 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Iowa #1603 View Post
                              AND another subject matter expert


                              And, on so many subjects.

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