What is your department's policy for treating an officer who is discovered to be suicidal? At what point would he be allowed to return to patrol? Would he first be put on desk duty--if so, how long?
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Originally posted by Shelby Rush View PostWhat is your department's policy for treating an officer who is discovered to be suicidal? At what point would he be allowed to return to patrol? Would he first be put on desk duty--if so, how long?Since some people need to be told by notes in crayon .......Don't PM me with without prior permission. If you can't discuss the situation in the open forum ----it must not be that important
My new word for the day is FOCUS, when someone irritates you tell them to FOCUS
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We bring them on top of a building and say " Do you really wanna jump, Do you?
Then when they are not looking we handcuff them and say it again but look crazy, then we jump off the building into a blown up cushion and they think I'm crazy and all of a sudden they have a zest for life... Then IOWA says " He's too old for this sh--"MDRDEP:
There are no stupid questions, but there sure are a lot of inquisitive idiots.
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Unfortunately, we can't (nor should we) treat suicidal cops any differently than we do suicidal non-cops.
If we cut them "breaks", we get accused of double-standard by public & media.
If they die at their own hand after a break was cut, family sues saying "Department didn't do enough!"
So here's an idea...time off, department issued gun retrieved. If state law (like California) allows, book all personal firearms for safekeeping. Get the employee into TREATMENT. Soft duty is okay, providing you have a spot for them, but this isn't a one size fits all situation - a ten officer department where everyone but the chief works patrol, isn't going to have the places to shelve them like a 1000, or even a 100 officer department.
Have Department Psychologist determine "fitness for duty". California has a mental health court which allows previous held psych patients to get all their rights, including firearm possession back (although no attorney, or even the NRA has EVER assisted any party in trying to get their guns back)."You're never fully dressed without a smile."
Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.
Three things I know for sure: (1) No bad deed goes unrewarded, (2) No good deed goes unpunished, and (3) It is entirely possible to push the most devoted, loyal and caring person beyond the point where they no longer give a 5h!t.
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Like an old lady's underwear, Depends.
We've had people get time off, get treatment, and get back to work after a few months. We've had people never return to work and eventually be separated from the department. We've also, unfortunately, had several who were successful in killing themselves.I miss you, Dave.
http://www.odmp.org/officer/20669-of...david-s.-moore
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Originally posted by CruiserClass View PostLike an old lady's underwear, Depends.
We've had people get time off, get treatment, and get back to work after a few months. We've had people never return to work and eventually be separated from the department. We've also, unfortunately, had several who were successful in killing themselves.Judge me by the enemies I have made----Unknown
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Thanks everyone, for your responses! If it helps, here's some additional info:
This fictitious officer is one of 1300, so I'm imagining desk duty will be an option for him, once he's up to it.
How'd he get in this mess? He's the first responder to a bad wreck; he comforts a victim as she dies (he can't do a thing to help her). Normally, that wouldn't have gotten to him, but he's also dealing with a good friend who's recently been diagnosed with stage III cancer, and his ex-wife leaves him a second time (he was really hoping to reconcile). That and ten years of police work ... he's worn out. He's an all or nothing kind of guy, so finding a balance is hard for him. He internalizes too much. A shame since he's well liked and respected as the shift's FTO.
Thanks again for your input.
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Originally posted by CCCSD View PostHow about this gets moved to a non-cop thread so people don't waste their time on responding to a non-event.Since some people need to be told by notes in crayon .......Don't PM me with without prior permission. If you can't discuss the situation in the open forum ----it must not be that important
My new word for the day is FOCUS, when someone irritates you tell them to FOCUS
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