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  • #91
    Johnnie.....Quite obviously you do not read well. You are basing your opinion, for the little it is worth, on media reports. Why would you listen to someone who was at the trial? The evidence of the unknown person was presented at the trial. You watch too many CSI episodes. Rape does not require ejaculation. If the rapist does not ejaculate, there is an excellent chance that his DNA will not be present on the victim. The ADA who pushed to have the case thrown out was a self-aggrandizing woman who truly disliked the head of the sex crimes unit and the ADA who led the prosecution

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Dinosaur32 View Post
      Johnnie.....Quite obviously you do not read well. You are basing your opinion, for the little it is worth, on media reports. Why would you listen to someone who was at the trial? The evidence of the unknown person was presented at the trial. You watch too many CSI episodes. Rape does not require ejaculation. If the rapist does not ejaculate, there is an excellent chance that his DNA will not be present on the victim. The ADA who pushed to have the case thrown out was a self-aggrandizing woman who truly disliked the head of the sex crimes unit and the ADA who led the prosecution





      Folks like our "johnnie" read very selectively. They seem bent on demonstrating to us that they can miss really salient facts, disregard incontrovertible evidence, and continue to live in their liberal dreamworld. We don't, as a forum, have to work too hard to prove that point, "johnnie" has done all the work, and continues to do so.

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      • #93
        if you hold some one down while another has forcible intercourse with a person you are guilty of rape.

        This is from the arresting officers statement posted on social media.

        4) There were witnesses against the defendants that included acquaintances and family friends including;
        a) Kharey Wise family friend Melody Jackson to whom Wise spoke to via telephone from Riker's Island after his arrest in this case. In their conversation Wise stated to Melody Jackson that he did not rape the jogger, he just merely, "held her legs down, while Kevin (Richardson) ****ed her." Because this woman, Ms. Jackson believed the act of merely holding down a victims legs while they were being raped is not a crime she volunteered this information to the detectives who questioned her brother regarding his relationship with the defendant Kharey Wise. She testified in open court that this is what Wise told her on the phone and in 2001 when asked again she confirmed that is what she heard. She has been the subject of threats as a result of her actions.


        So in ghetto logic Mr. Wise did not rape her but according to NYS law he did.

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        • #94
          Wait, did this Mensa member actually say rape requires ejaculation?

          I yell "PIKACHU" before I tase someone.

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          • #95
            Central park jogger jury of their peers.

            The jurors, selected last week in State Supreme Court in Manhattan, include:
            • Earl Fisher, jury foreman, a retired housing inspector and a 1950 Boston University law graduate. He is black.
            • Charles Nestorick, a customer representative for New York Telephone who used to live in Pennsylvania, where the jogger grew up. He is white.
            • Pedro Sanchez, a city employee who plans to retire this year. He is a black Hispanic.
            • Ben Neal, whose cousin is a retired police officer. he is black.
            • Ronald Gold, formerly a speech and proposal writer for the national Gay Task Force. He also has written for TV Guide. He is white.
            • Rafael Miranda, a college-educated Transit Authority track maintenance worker. He is Hispanic.
            • Harold Bruland, a computer manual writer for the state Social Services Department and formerly a pastor for a Methodist church in Minnesota. He is an avid jogger who runs in Central Park. He is white.
            • Richard Peters, whose brother retired as police lieutenant in Queens three years ago. He is white.
            • George Louie, whose wife is a cancer researcher. He is Asian.
            • Samuel Holliday, a Consolidated Edison repairman who is a block association member. He is black.
            • Edith Milton, a clerk at her brother’s convenience grocery store and a churchgoer who is active in her tenant patrol. She is black.
            • Migdalia Fuentes, a secretary at the United Nations. Her UN department publishes material on child labor and street children. She is a black Hispanic.
            Last edited by BNWS; 01-10-2015, 03:51 PM.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Dinosaur32 View Post
              Johnnie.........I am only going to comment on the Central Park rape trial. Those five defendants were absolutely guilty. I was at the trial, saw the evidence, heard the testimony.The prosecutors were top notch and all the evidence including the "unknown" DNA was presented to the jury. I law the taped confessions, there was no coercion. The decision to free the five was the result of Morgenthau, in his cottage, listening to an ADA who had a personal vendetta against the actual prosecutor. In my career I dealt with all the actors in this case.

              Dino here's an article describing the vendetta in the NYDAO you alluded to.

              http://nypost.com/2002/12/08/legal-e...-jogger-probe/
              Last edited by BNWS; 01-11-2015, 12:12 AM.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Dinosaur32 View Post
                Johnnie.....Quite obviously you do not read well. You are basing your opinion, for the little it is worth, on media reports. Why would you listen to someone who was at the trial? The evidence of the unknown person was presented at the trial. You watch too many CSI episodes. Rape does not require ejaculation. If the rapist does not ejaculate, there is an excellent chance that his DNA will not be present on the victim. The ADA who pushed to have the case thrown out was a self-aggrandizing woman who truly disliked the head of the sex crimes unit and the ADA who led the prosecution
                There you go confusing the situation with real facts..................Do you really expect him to understand what really happened as opposed to what he thinks happened
                Since some people need to be told by notes in crayon .......Don't PM me with without prior permission. If you can't discuss the situation in the open forum ----it must not be that important

                My new word for the day is FOCUS, when someone irritates you tell them to FOCUS

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by [email protected]
                  So we're ignoring the medical examiner and all the other evidence? When a forensic pathologist says there's no indication that it was anything more than one individual, that's ignored?

                  When the DNA matches a rapist whose MO includes the way the woman was raped and he admits to it, including knowing key details, we're going to ignore that?

                  Those are facts as well.
                  I am going to go with the guy who was present during the testimony that was presented at court, by which the jury convicted the people.

                  Yea, I will ignore anything else as I am allowed.

                  During the 3 decades that I worked in maximum security prisons I really could have cared less if the person was "innocent' or not. What mattered was that he had been judged guility and I was given the job of incarcerating him. That was all that mattered to me

                  If the conviction was overturned, I let them go----that doesn't mean I thought they were "not guilty' or "innocent" ---it just meant the courts decided that he was no longer to be incarcerated.


                  My understanding is that the DA made a political decision and that the Mayor did also................neither equates to "innocent"
                  Since some people need to be told by notes in crayon .......Don't PM me with without prior permission. If you can't discuss the situation in the open forum ----it must not be that important

                  My new word for the day is FOCUS, when someone irritates you tell them to FOCUS

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by [email protected]

                    We have a representational democracy, which means that those citizens who voted for him don't get the opportunity to enact policy directly, they're required to elect individuals who represent their viewpoints and policy wishes. That's exactly what he was doing, and it's how our system is supposed to work.
                    .
                    Actually the United States relies on representative democracy, but its system of government is much more complex than that. It is not a simple representative democracy, but a constitutional republic in which majority rule is tempered.



                    As per the Federalist #10

                    The United States is, indeed, a republic, not a democracy. Accurately defined, a democracy is a form of government in which the people decide policy matters directly--through town hall meetings or by voting on ballot initiatives and referendums. A republic, on the other hand, is a system in which the people choose representatives who, in turn, make policy decisions on their behalf. The Framers of the Constitution were altogether fearful of pure democracy. Everything they read and studied taught them that pure democracies "have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths"
                    Last edited by Iowa #1603; 01-10-2015, 04:47 PM.
                    Since some people need to be told by notes in crayon .......Don't PM me with without prior permission. If you can't discuss the situation in the open forum ----it must not be that important

                    My new word for the day is FOCUS, when someone irritates you tell them to FOCUS

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                    • Originally posted by Iowa #1603 View Post
                      Actually the United States relies on representative democracy, but its system of government is much more complex than that. It is not a simple representative democracy, but a constitutional republic in which majority rule is tempered.



                      As per the Federalist #10

                      The United States is, indeed, a republic, not a democracy. Accurately defined, a democracy is a form of government in which the people decide policy matters directly--through town hall meetings or by voting on ballot initiatives and referendums. A republic, on the other hand, is a system in which the people choose representatives who, in turn, make policy decisions on their behalf. The Framers of the Constitution were altogether fearful of pure democracy. Everything they read and studied taught them that pure democracies "have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths"
                      Outstanding post

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