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  • #16
    Originally posted by PtownVAMike View Post
    Here's some info to back up what I said:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dai...ntry-1.2032359
    Thanks for the link, and I'm reading it now...

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    Yes, DeBlasio was critical of police officers. I already address this in my post above. I still do not see, even if you disagree with his assessment, you can take from his comments about his African American son as him "hating" the NYPD or that he's some how responsible for the murders of the 2 officers.
    Last edited by don757; 01-02-2015, 06:22 PM.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by don757 View Post
      Explain and cite how he "hates" the NYPD? Should be easy being that he "made no bones about" it.
      Google is your friend.

      http://nypost.com/2014/07/30/why-de-...ears-the-nypd/

      http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeBlasio
      Atlanta & Los Angeles

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      • #18
        And to the OP:

        Your question is well-taken.

        As long as you (and this applies to all non-LEO posters) don't come across as "challenging" any of the officers here (or any officers who are involved in any incidents) you will more than likely get favorable responses. Although we as civilians aren't allowed to "dictate the answers we get or who gives them", the fact is that the attitude of our posts will sort of determine the types of responses we receive.
        It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by don757 View Post
          Thanks for the link, and I'm reading it now...

          [edit]

          Yes, DeBlasio was critical of police officers. I already address this in my post above. I still do not see, even if you disagree with his assessment, you can take from his comments about his African American son as him "hating" the NYPD or that he's some how responsible for the murders of the 2 officers.
          So take the test for NYPD officer. Come share the mayors love.

          Here's a link.
          http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcas/html/wo...nthly.shtml#oc

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Laurendale View Post
            This has been talked to death by now, but I'm not quite sure I understand. With the recent gigantic neon middle-fingers displayed by the NYPD, I just have to ask: what's the problem with DeBlasio?

            I get the comments he made in that press conference once, and I see how that would cheese a lot of officers off. But, beyond that, what? I read just now in a different topic that he "ran on a 'cops are bad' platform." What does that mean?

            Thanks in advance, O.com, and please forgive me. I'm about as far removed from NY politics as they come (farther from NYPD sentiments), and I haven't done the legwork. I really wouldn't know how to phrase the search. So, your opinions?

            http://nypost.com/2015/01/01/de-blasios-cop-out/

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            • #21
              Originally posted by PtownVAMike View Post
              And to the OP:

              Your question is well-taken.

              As long as you (and this applies to all non-LEO posters) don't come across as "challenging" any of the officers here (or any officers who are involved in any incidents) you will more than likely get favorable responses. Although we as civilians aren't allowed to "dictate the answers we get or who gives them", the fact is that the attitude of our posts will sort of determine the types of responses we receive.
              There are many well respected non law enforcement officer members of this forum. There are many who just want to learn & ask inane questions which sometimes challenge our patiences... HOWEVER most of the long time LEO posters here are pretty good at ferreting out the posters who really want to learn as opposed to those who want to stir the vat.

              We know the difference and respond in kind.


              Bottom line with DeBlasio is that he ran for office on an anti cop slate, was arrested in a protest during his campaign and doesn't back his department.

              Those who say he doesn't have to back his people know absolutely nothing about leadership. One should praise in public and chew arse in PRIVATE. He does the opposite. The line rank and file of his police department know him better than anyone else and should be trusted in their decisions to not trust him
              Since some people need to be told by notes in crayon .......Don't PM me with without prior permission. If you can't discuss the situation in the open forum ----it must not be that important

              My new word for the day is FOCUS, when someone irritates you tell them to FOCUS

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              • #22
                Originally posted by don757 View Post
                Because he gave good advice to his mixed son. He stated that:



                The reality of it all is that it's no secret that many, but not most, young Black males in urban settings statistically commit a disportionate amount of crimes. Naturally, there will be biased, or caution if you will, when encountering Black males suspected of committing a crime vs other races.

                Next, DeBlasio's advice to his son is also backed by a study which was published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology which found that some in law enforement veiw Black boys as older, less innocent, and more of a threat than Whites.

                What DeBlasio told his son about not making any sudden moves was good reality based advice , but not politically correct advice. As the mayor of NY, he isn't supposed to go against officers in any way. He's not supposed to speak his mind. Because of what he told his son, he's being accused of "turning his back on police", and also of being responsible for the deaths of the two officers that were killed. All of which is completely asinine and blown out of proportion. He did NOT accuse all officers of being racist. He said that the chances of his African American son's actions during a police encounter being taken as a sign of aggression is higher than Whites. I do not disagree. Lets face it, there aren't many people being stopped and frisked in predominantly White neighborhoods.

                [edit] He is also NOT best pals with Al Sharpton, and many people's imagination have been going wild.
                Dude, you really need to lay off the mushrooms, hon. Why the ***** would he tell his son that if his son is getting PERSONAL protection from the NYPD?

                My parents had 6 children. We were all taught to respect police and to cooperate. We were also cognizant there was a judicial system if you ever needed to complain. I have NO idea what's so hard about grasping this concept: if you disagree with what law enforcement has done -- there is a judicial system waiting there for you to utilize. We have the best on earth.

                It's a misdemeanor and in some cases, a felony, to resist arrest. What is so hard about cooperating with law enforcement and venting your grievance LATER through the judicial system -- not out on the street where your actions can be construed as potentially threatening to police??

                I just don't get you libs' approach. Our judicial system is the best in the world. If LE arrests you and you feel it's unwarranted, go straight to a lawyer. Back when I was a YOUNG, NAIVE, LIBERAL, undergrad student, I wanted to be a defense lawyer because I knew we had the best judicial system in the world.

                Your entire post is devoid of logic, facts, and any objectivity.
                Last edited by EmmaPeel; 01-02-2015, 07:17 PM.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by don757 View Post
                  Because he gave good advice to his mixed son. He stated that:



                  The reality of it all is that it's no secret that many, but not most, young Black males in urban settings statistically commit a disportionate amount of crimes. Naturally, there will be biased, or caution if you will, when encountering Black males suspected of committing a crime vs other races.

                  Next, DeBlasio's advice to his son is also backed by a study which was published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology which found that some in law enforement veiw Black boys as older, less innocent, and more of a threat than Whites.

                  What DeBlasio told his son about not making any sudden moves was good reality based advice , but not politically correct advice. As the mayor of NY, he isn't supposed to go against officers in any way. He's not supposed to speak his mind. Because of what he told his son, he's being accused of "turning his back on police", and also of being responsible for the deaths of the two officers that were killed. All of which is completely asinine and blown out of proportion. He did NOT accuse all officers of being racist. He said that the chances of his African American son's actions during a police encounter being taken as a sign of aggression is higher than Whites. I do not disagree. Lets face it, there aren't many people being stopped and frisked in predominantly White neighborhoods.

                  [edit] He is also NOT best pals with Al Sharpton, and many people's imagination have been going wild.
                  I was not going to dignify your hallucination with a response....but I thought it was important enough to let you know that I would not dignify your hallucination with a response. Beam back up to the mother ship.

                  NOT best pals with Fat Al????????? Bill DiBlowso can tell you what Fat Al's shyte tastes like.
                  Last edited by So Fla Cop; 01-02-2015, 07:53 PM.
                  September 11, 2001 - All gave some, some gave all. Never forget -- Never forgive.......... RIP Brothers and Sisters.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by EmmaPeel View Post
                    Dude, you really need to lay off the mushrooms, hon. Why the ***** would he tell his son that if his son is getting PERSONAL protection from the NYPD?

                    My parents had 6 children. We were all taught to respect police and to cooperate. We were also cognizant there was a judicial system if you ever needed to complain. I have NO idea what's so hard about grasping this concept: if you disagree with what law enforcement has done -- there is a judicial system waiting there for you to utilize. We have the best on earth.

                    It's a misdemeanor and in some cases, a felony, to resist arrest. What is so hard about cooperating with law enforcement and venting your grievance LATER through the judicial system -- not out on the street where your actions can be construed as potentially threatening to police??

                    I just don't get you libs' approach. Our judicial system is the best in the world. If LE arrests you and you feel it's unwarranted, go straight to a lawyer. Back when I was a YOUNG, NAIVE, LIBERAL, undergrad student, I wanted to be a defense lawyer because I knew we had the best judicial system in the world.

                    Your entire post is devoid of logic, facts, and any objectivity.
                    He told his son this very early on, not recently.

                    "It's different for a white child. That's just the reality in this country," de Blasio went on. "And with Dante, very early on with my son, we said, look, if a police officer stops you, do everything he tells you to do, don't move suddenly, don't reach for your cell phone, because we knew, sadly, there's a greater chance it might be misinterpreted if it was a young man of color."

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by don757 View Post
                      Thanks for the link, and I'm reading it now...

                      [edit]

                      Yes, DeBlasio was critical of police officers. I already address this in my post above. I still do not see, even if you disagree with his assessment, you can take from his comments about his African American son as him "hating" the NYPD or that he's some how responsible for the murders of the 2 officers.
                      I am wondering the answer to this question as well. But, I see a lot of Lol. I don't see how that is good information being provided about this. A lot of people read these threads and are genuinely interested in questions posted in these forums.

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                      • #26
                        He did enough to **** off a lot of really good men and women in uniform. Wouldn't trade places with him for anything, or any amount of money. I have never in my life seen that many police officers turn their backs to a mayor - not saying it's new but I personally have never seen it. Also, one thing that bothered me, and I may be alone on this, BUT, the remarks he made in Spanish were self-serving IMO. That's great he knows Spanish as I'm sure a lot of men in uniform speak Spanish in the area and Ramos was Latino, but imo, it wasn't necessary. Future election material looked like to me.
                        Last edited by that's my hand; 01-02-2015, 08:21 PM.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by that's my hand View Post
                          Future election material looked like to me.
                          The audience was-----------lets say NOT people who are going to vote for him. That bridge is under water
                          Since some people need to be told by notes in crayon .......Don't PM me with without prior permission. If you can't discuss the situation in the open forum ----it must not be that important

                          My new word for the day is FOCUS, when someone irritates you tell them to FOCUS

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                          • #28
                            Here it is, the liberal/socialist/communist playbook: "How to make "friends" by extortion and intimidate people"
                            It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.

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                            • #29
                              The mayor has in his sometimes incoherent ramblings accused the NYPD of suffering from decades of institutional racism and that Cops act with unconscious bias when dealing with minorities. He, of course, offers no proof of either claim, just that he knows this is so. Painting every member of the NYPD as racist was just sheer idiocy.

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                              • #30
                                I certainly feel like I've reached the end of this thread with a better idea of what is going on than I started with. Thank you, guys.

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