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  • tanksoldier
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    What ever happened to the relative of Michael Brown who yelled "Burn it down" Just before they burned down businesses in Ferguson?
    Nothing, but that would fit the example.

    The government doesn't PREVENT them from speaking, it SHOULD enforce consequences for poorly exercised rights.

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  • EmmaPeel
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    Excellent thread to resurrect! *****ing Media.

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  • NextofKin
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    BUMP!

    I know they hide behind the veil of Freedom of the Press and the Constitution which enacted this freedom but I said it when the 2 NYPD officers were murdered and I'll say it again today.The media shares responsibility for the violence we see in our society across a very wide field of categories.

    The way they stir up other wise minor or atleast local stories for sensationalism to create profit through increased ratings creates tension.And they are aware that disturbed minds out there somewhere are waiting for just enough of a push to finally cross that line to do something rash.

    The liberal wing of the media may not pull the trigger in these active shooter or targeted shooting events but the mere fact that attackers' partial goal is to draw attention to themselves as a direct result of the sensational attention they have seen granted to similar losers proves that the media is openly granting these loons a stage as well as a "cause" go finally go crazy.

    I dont know who said it first but I have heard the theory that news media created the modern day mass shooter and if you ask me they are creating a very similar environment for the renewed birth of an old foe not seen on any level of consistency since the turbulent 1960's.........

    The assassin.

    Im glad the two police officers in Ferguson survived their injuries.If they dont catch this lunatic soon,the next group of LE victims may not be so lucky.

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  • PtownVAMike
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    Since we're on the topic of media coverage of police incidents, and at the risk of hijacking the thread, I have seen a lot of police-related stories on libertarian websites which lead the readers to believe that the cops in question used force merely because they were p****d off that their orders were not being obeyed. Such stories suggest that LEOs routinely "go ballistic" on people for relatively minor offenses.

    But that's too simple and predictable of an explanation. Most (if not all) police departments and agencies have strict guidelines as to when, where and what types of force may be used to gain compliance.

    A typical cop is not like some schoolyard bully who will start wailing on you just because you refuse to give him/her your lunch money. But most of the mainstream media loves that kind of stuff.

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  • that's my hand
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    I can't even imagine being able to function as a police officer if I watched any amount of "news". It doesn't MATTER which station you pick from, they ARE ALL marching to the same beat just different cadence. We have watched the IRS tap dance around issues by pleading the 5th. Watched people like Sharyl Atkinson railroaded because she asked too many questions about Fast and Furious and Benghazi. Watched Michael Hastings car explode like a tomahawk missile after writing a scathing article about a deserter for which this administration traded 5 high level Taliban for. We've watched good people exploited for political gains. These are big jobs, you need some big bats to take care of this type stuff. Mass media held accountable, why no, like the others they've probably gotten more $$$ incentives and "perks".

    The whole time the media moguls are laughing at Americans; laughing at our complete willingness to go with the herd, never speak up and let the sheepdogs fall like flies. At some point either the good people will stand up and do something or they will become miserable little rats scurrying from one hole to another avoiding the next big threat to their miserable existence. JMHO.

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  • BNWS
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    Originally posted by tanksoldier View Post
    No one is suggesting they be gagged.

    The classic example is yelling fire in a theater.

    No one suggests we cut out people's tongue so they CAN'T yell fire... we merely punish after the fact those who do so without cause.

    Inciting a riot is inciting a riot, whether you're on a soap box or a TV screen.
    What ever happened to the relative of Michael Brown who yelled "Burn it down" Just before they burned down businesses in Ferguson?

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  • tanksoldier
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    If media is muzzled, how can we know whether or not they are FOS?
    No one is suggesting they be gagged.

    The classic example is yelling fire in a theater.

    No one suggests we cut out people's tongue so they CAN'T yell fire... we merely punish after the fact those who do so without cause.

    Inciting a riot is inciting a riot, whether you're on a soap box or a TV screen.

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  • EmmaPeel
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    Originally posted by JJHunsacker View Post
    Media can report and say whatever they want. It is up to us to recognize the BS. They are selling something. Who says we have to automatically buy it? Freedom of the press is important. If media is muzzled, how can we know whether or not they are FOS?
    No one's asking them to be muzzled. Not in the least. We're asking for accountability. And we're asking for them to admit when they're really just an extension of a political party....and to be honest, they all are. On all sides.

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  • EmmaPeel
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    Originally posted by Seventy2002 View Post
    May I propose a couple other explanations?

    Broadcasters are licensed by the FCC and are required to operate in "the public interest". They meet the "public interest" requirement by, among other things, broadcasting news and opinion. If the news programming makes money, well and good but nobody pretends that's where the profit is.

    Both a CNN and MSNBC are units of large conglomerates. Some years ago, an acquaintance of mine was the comptroller of a paper mill owned by a large conglomerate. The mill had lost money for years and that was just fine, he told me, large conglomerates need a few money-losing subsidiaries for tax purposes.
    I have to respectfully disagree with you on a number of counts, 2002. When you say "no one pretends that's where the profit is," Fox Cable News IS a profit center for Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. They've also built the largest audience share.

    When you talk about lawyers saying businesses need a few money-losing subsidiaries, that's something a lawyer would say tongue and cheek; it's always better to make profit then for an element to be in the red. But if you're going to have a subsidiary be in the red, tax incentives do lessen the blow.

    Another point is that no other businesses get that special Constitutional treatment that media companies get, so I don't think a paper mill is comparable to an entity with the power to propagandize.

    As for news and opinion, old school liberal journalists used to at least make sure the audience knew which portion was news and which was opinion. Today's journalists just blend the two together.
    Last edited by EmmaPeel; 12-28-2014, 10:09 PM.

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  • BNWS
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    Originally posted by PtownVAMike View Post
    Political grandstanding at its finest
    Yet not condemned in the media.

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  • PtownVAMike
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    Originally posted by BNWS View Post
    This and the fact that elected leaders in congress and the NYC council stood in their chambers and chanted "Hands up Don't Shoot" and "I can't Breathe". They're willing to condemn Police Officers for turning their backs on de Blasio but not the politicians antics.
    Political grandstanding at its finest

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  • NextofKin
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    Originally posted by BNWS View Post
    This and the fact that elected leaders in congress and the NYC council stood in their chambers and chanted "Hands up Don't Shoot" and "I can't Breathe". They're willing to condemn Police Officers for turning their backs on de Blasio but not the politicians antics.

    LoL I know what de Blasio's problem is.....but I'll keep that to myself.

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  • BNWS
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    Originally posted by yorkshire ripoff
    Exactly.the cop killer said in his instagram that he was seeking revenge for the deaths of Mike Brown and Eric Garner.How would he have known about those killings and why would he have felt so strongly about avenging the deaths of two men he didnt even know if it hadnt been for the way the ******* media put a spin on the stories to demonize police?
    This and the fact that elected leaders in congress and the NYC council stood in their chambers and chanted "Hands up Don't Shoot" and "I can't Breathe". They're willing to condemn Police Officers for turning their backs on de Blasio but not the politicians antics.

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  • JasperST
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    The news is more tabloid than anything else, these days. It's easy to make accusations and difficult to defend against. If a cop is white and the perp is black, racism is automatically assumed, unless proven otherwise, which is almost impossible. Division and strife is good for business, damn the consequences. But it's the dipsticks that gobble it up that are the real problem.

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  • Rudy8116
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    Originally posted by JJHunsacker View Post
    Media can report and say whatever they want. It is up to us to recognize the BS. They are selling something. Who says we have to automatically buy it? Freedom of the press is important. If media is muzzled, how can we know whether or not they are FOS?
    If you tell people long enough that horse crap is peanut butter, eventually they'll eat it.

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