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  • #16
    Originally posted by Seventy2002 View Post
    24-hour news dates back to the mid-'60's when the all-news radio format debuted. One station had a slogan, "You give us 22 minutes, we'll give you the world". That was actually about as much news content as Walter Cronkite gave us when commercials were subtracted. When CNN started they ran on a 30-minute cycle, pretty much the same as Walter Cronkite, and would rinse and repeat around the clock.
    I have chronic insomnia, I'm a really light sleeper. For a lot of years, until I got married and she put the kibosh on it, I used to keep a radio by my bed all night long tuned to WBBM in Chicago, which I could pick up at night. I've tried to listen to it a bit since online, and it's gotten about like all the others. But in it's day, it was a great all-news station that wasn't repetitive and gave you good content, and when I'd wake up five or six times I night, I'd hear what was going in the world and I could come to work prepared. They did have commentary and opinion, but it was presented as being commentary and opinion, as it should be.

    Well, there is, but who wants to hear about a house fire in Helsinki or the score of a soccer game in Uruguay?
    Yep.

    True. I though the original CNN was great, now matter what time I got off shift, I could get my news fix. Then they started hiring "personalities" instead of journalists and pretty soon they were spending more time talking about the news than reporting it. There was no clear delineation between fact and opinion.

    I shut the TV off nearly 25 years ago and haven't regretted it.
    I've seen it happen so many times. You have people who come into the business, mine being print, ergo the "Ink-Stained" handle, who either want to be the reincarnation of William Faulkner, or who want to change the world. Reporting hard news isn't very sexy, but it's the thing I absolutely love doing. I think I said in one of my first posts here, I see my place as being the initial chronicle of history, wherever it goes, no other agenda whatsoever. I'm a throwback, I'm a maverick and I understand that I'm a man out of place given the way things are now.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Ink Stained Wretch View Post
      You have people who come into the business, mine being print, ergo the "Ink-Stained" handle, who either want to be the reincarnation of William Faulkner, or who want to change the world.
      I scrubbed off the ink stains nearly 40 years ago when I transitioned from print journalism to law enforcement. A few years after that I saw the emergence of what I called post-Watergate hotshots, people who got into journalism because they saw "All The President's Men." Maybe they thought a journalism degree would make them look like Robert Redford.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Steve856
        Media companies do not exist to report the news. Media companies exist to make money for their owners. Just like any other business.

        Media companies report and analyze the news in a way that provides the type of content that attracts viewer, which attracts advertisers, which increases their revenue.
        You mean all the commercials are for commercial purposes? Apart from the obvious, what you are omitting is that opinions CAN and ARE shaped by media. It isn't just the giving people what they want scenario, but it's getting them on board with your point of view. Open objective reporting would absolutely attract viewers, people believe media is biased, which it is, so there is a market for honest trustworthy reporting. Any one of them would INCREASE their market share but money is secondary, shaping the world comes first. It's like a religion for today's journalists.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by nextofkin View Post
          i saw this on facebook status update today and it made me ponder:



          I think the irony of this fb poster referring to the news media as hollywood entertainment now is that events like what has unfolded in ferguson over the past several months is not a movie set,this is real.real people,real lives,real property damage,real risk.i honestly dont know if its the way things are being reported now or the length of time they are being reported that makes the so called new media(especially cable news) so venomous but i do know that while no one will say it and while they can continue to hide behind being journalists they have alot more responsibility then they are held to task for.

          You know its funny yesterday on cnn they were pushing the issue of if michael browns stepfather should be arrested for inciting violence last week because i know they only want him arrested(even though it may be justified) so people can get upset and riot again.

          And did anyone catch the title of cnn tv and .com the other day.........

          "is cleavland the next ferguson?" (in reference to the 12 year old boy shot to death by police while weilding a air soft pistol)

          what the hell are they talking about???

          Why would they even inquire on such a thing?

          What they are doing is trying to piggy back off their handy work in ferguson and create another inferno while things are still simmering and smoldering.

          Notice how since yesterday they are back on the eric garner story,talking about the grand jury decision being close and replaying the video of his death over and over and over again?they did the same thing with the rodney king video so many years ago.they understand how the human mind works.off the back drop of massive protests in new york and the grand jury failing to indict officer wilson the chances of getting people ramped and stirred up for another gj decision that will likely go in the leo's favor is high.

          As the fb poster asked...........can the media really just get by by saying "we are press"?

          Make no mistake....noone except the perps themselves is at bigger fault for what has happened in ferguson and even before ferguson than the news media.

          I know as experienced leo's you already know the owners of these networks will never be prosecuted and are unlikely to be sued or government regulated but i just wanted to hear your thoughts on what you think should happen over the course of maybe the next few years with opportunist,profiteering instigators that dare to call themselves journalists.
          bump!

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          • #20
            If noone else will say it I will,the blood of those two officer is partially on the hands of CNN and extremist left wing networks like CNN.

            The pushed and pushed and pushed until they found that nut underneath the surface that was ready to crack.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by NextofKin View Post
              CNN is now comparing the Rodney king beating video to the Eric Garner chokehold video talking to "experts" about similarities(there are no similarities)

              Tell me that's not instigating and incitement.

              The major similarity is both "victims" were career criminals with lengthy arrest histories. Other then that, nadda. The media wants there to be similarities, and will invent them if needed.
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              • #22
                Yup the media now creates controversy to stir emotion to insight tragedy to get ratings.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Loren Pechtel View Post
                  I disagree.

                  The news media--including those from the right--are about attracting eyeballs and selling ads to those eyeballs.

                  They are going to report things in a way that will make the demographic they target want to watch their news. To do requires that they stand above their competition--which in effect means they must exaggerate the news.

                  Fox targets the conservatives. CNN targets the liberals. Most news sources tilt towards the Muslims/Arabs vs the Jews/Israel because the latter are about 100x as numerous.
                  I already proved you wrong with irrefutable data when you brought this up in the Garner thread. Try going back and reading that.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Steve856
                    Media companies do not exist to report the news. Media companies exist to make money for their owners. Just like any other business.

                    Media companies report and analyze the news in a way that provides the type of content that attracts viewer, which attracts advertisers, which increases their revenue.
                    I already proved you wrong TOOOO with irrefutable data when you brought this up in the Garner thread. Try going back and reading that. CNN and MSNBC have been losing money, genius. They're motivated by ideology, genius.

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                    • #25
                      So glad Emma's back active to call out the foolish again

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by jdthor View Post
                        So glad Emma's back active to call out the foolish again
                        Yep, I used irrefutable numbers in that one, jd. Guess I should go dig up my post that showed CNN and MSNBC are ok with losing money because it's about INDOCTRINATION for them, less about money.

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                        • #27
                          Here's the old post from the Garner thread. Let me see how it displays...

                          Quote Originally Posted by Loren Pechtel View Post

                          I disagree. The media are $ influenced. It's a competition for eyeballs.

                          What's going to get more watchers:

                          "Man dies while resisting arrest"

                          or

                          "Black man killed by white cops"?

                          They have a considerable incentive to make stories more sensational.




                          You disagree they could be politically motivated? Why must it be either or? Money is an incentive in many cases, but so is ideology.

                          You must've missed my post where I mentioned CNN and MSNBC LOSING money and audience share. Here....let me give you examples of "media being motivated by ideological agenda even if they lose money." As CNN and MSNBC both move further to the left, more people are tuning them out. That makes them lose profit. Profit is NOT the primary motivator for either:

                          http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sh...ewers-one-year

                          It's been a tough year for the liberal cable news outlets. Data released Tuesday show CNN shedding 48 percent of total viewers since last November and MSNBC dropping 45 percent. -





                          http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/...dience_b211593

                          Despite the changes Jeff Zucker has made at CNN over the past year, things are still fairly bleak for the network. January 2014 was CNN’s third lowest-rated month ever, with the network losing more than a quarter of its audience in both total day and primetime compared to January 2013.

                          The ratings for January 2014 (Nielsen Live + Same Day data)....
                          Last edited by EmmaPeel; 12-21-2014, 11:25 AM.

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                          • #28
                            You want media accountability and honesty? When you read this headline in the MSM, you have achieved your goal.

                            Black phony lying Reverend crackhead looking tax cheat bigot racial arsonist thief says he profits from his crimes because white people pay him off. WH and AG still support the illegal racial activities in the name of "Change you can believe in".

                            Don't hold you breath.
                            Last edited by So Fla Cop; 12-21-2014, 11:57 AM.
                            September 11, 2001 - All gave some, some gave all. Never forget -- Never forgive.......... RIP Brothers and Sisters.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by EmmaPeel View Post
                              CNN and MSNBC have been losing money, genius. They're motivated by ideology, genius.
                              May I propose a couple other explanations?

                              Broadcasters are licensed by the FCC and are required to operate in "the public interest". They meet the "public interest" requirement by, among other things, broadcasting news and opinion. If the news programming makes money, well and good but nobody pretends that's where the profit is.

                              Both a CNN and MSNBC are units of large conglomerates. Some years ago, an acquaintance of mine was the comptroller of a paper mill owned by a large conglomerate. The mill had lost money for years and that was just fine, he told me, large conglomerates need a few money-losing subsidiaries for tax purposes.

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                              • #30
                                Considering the media keeps using the term "Black man choked to death by white cops" I'd say they have blood on their hands.
                                Originally posted by RSGSRT
                                We've reached a point where natural selection doesn't have a chance in hell of keeping up with the procreation of imbeciles.
                                Why is it acceptable for you to be an idiot, but not acceptable for me to point it out?

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