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  • American Aid Workers Infected with Ebola Arrive in US

    Who approved this, wanna guess? I wish them well, BUT if there is no danger, they should have been brought to the White House first. What the He11 are we doing trying to save the world?


    The first of two American aid workers infected with the deadly Ebola virus while in Liberia arrived in the United States Saturday morning.

    A chartered medical aircraft carrying Dr. Kent Brantly touched down at Dobbins Air Reserve Base in Marietta, Georgia, shortly before noon. Brantly was driven by ambulance, with police escort, to Emory University Hospital in Atlanta for treatment in a specially equipped room.

    Television news footage showed the ambulance stop outside the hospital, and three people in white biohazard suits stepped gingerly out of the vehicle.

    Two of them walked into the building, one seeming to lean on the other for support. A hospital spokesman confirmed that Brantly walked into the building under his own power.

    This marks the first time a human case of Ebola virus has been present in the United States. A previous outbreak of an Ebola virus strain did occur in a commercial monkey house in Reston, Virginia in 1989. That particular strain of the disease, now named Ebola Reston, did not make the jump to human carriers.

    Dr. Jay Varkey, an infectious disease specialist at Emory, said he could not comment on a treatment plan until Brantly had been evaluated. Since there is no known cure, standard procedures, according to the World Health Organization, are to provide hydration with solutions containing electrolytes or intravenous fluids.

    Brantly works for the North Carolina-based Christian organization Samaritan's Purse. A second infected member of the group, missionary Nancy Writebol, will be brought to the United States on a later flight, as the medical aircraft is equipped to carry only one patient at a time.

    Despite alarm by some in the United States over the transport, health officials have said bringing the sickened aid workers into the country would not put the American public at risk.

    "There is a little bit of worry," Jenny Kendrix, 46, said of having the Ebola virus patient brought to the same hospital where her husband was being treated for cancer. "There is worry about it getting out."

    But 52-year-old Ernie Surunis of Columbus, Mississippi, at the hospital for a pharmacy conference, said he was not bothered at all.

    "This is a good hospital. I'm glad (the patients) are coming. We can't leave them (in Africa) to die. They went over to help other people," he said.

    The facility at Emory, set up with the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, is one of only four in the country and is physically separate from other patient areas, providing a high level of clinical isolation.

    "We have a specially designed unit, which is highly contained. We have highly trained personnel who know how to safely enter the room of a patient who requires this form of isolation," Bruce Ribner, an infectious disease specialist at Emory, told a news conference on Friday.

    Ribner said he hoped the medical support available at Emory could improve the chances of survival from that seen on the ground in West Africa.

    Worst outbreak on record

    The patients were helping respond to the worst West African Ebola outbreak on record with the North Carolina-based Christian organization Samaritan's Purse and missionary group SIM USA when they contracted the disease. Since February, more than 700 people in the region have died from the infection.

    The hemorrhagic virus can kill up to 90 percent of those who become infected, and the fatality rate in the current epidemic is about 60 percent.

    Brantly, a 33-year-old father of two young children, and Writebol, a 59-year-old mother of two, will each arrive at Dobbins Air Reserve Base outside Atlanta before being transported to Emory, officials at the Pentagon and the hospital said.

    The two will be treated primarily by a team of four infectious disease physicians. The workers will be able to see loved ones through a plate glass window and speak to those outside their rooms by phone or intercom.

    Samaritan's Purse and SIM said they were sending 60 healthy U.S. staff and family members home from Liberia by this weekend as well.
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  • #2
    Good. This American should be back here in the United States so that he can be treated by fellow professionals who don't survive on brush meat and poop in a dirt hole in the ground. That way he can beat the odds and eventually get back to out there on behalf of the non-profit organization he works for to continue helping people in countries which are not fortunate enough to have proper sanitation or able to reap the benefits of modern medical science that we enjoy. But, should he not beat the odds and pass he and his family can spend his last days together, even if it is through a plastic bubble.

    I have no doubt that he will be properly quarantined, all instruments/materials used will be properly sterilized/destroyed, and he won't be swapping any body fluids with other humans any time in the near future to spread it further.
    “You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.” ― Winston Churchill

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    • #3
      Hopefully this pandemic can be controlled, it's awful to hear about all these cases. I don't think I've seen a more horrifying disease.

      I hope they get the doctors (and everyone that is afflicted) the appropriate medical attention they need.

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      • #4
        The government hasn't ever effed anything up, what could possibly go wrong? After all, they did a great job quarantining AIDS.

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        • #5
          We better get Dustin Hoffman, Rene Russo, and Morgan Freeman on stand-by just in case...

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          • #6
            Anyone infected should be kept at the point of infection. You don't bring a communicable high lethality disease into any country. While it's a nice thought to bring them home, they should be cremated at the site and buried there. It's harsh, but the need for safety outweighs the "feel good" aspect of this.

            If anyone thinks that systems are in place to mitigate a disease spread, you are an idiot. Look at TB. PHS tries to quarantine and they are hit with legal challenges and refusal to cooperate. How will it look if we use force on a refusal? Look at the crap we deal with just trying to arrest a combative subject...

            This transfer of the volunteers was a stupid act, and one that could have huge ramifications. Reston anyone?
            Now go home and get your shine box!

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            • #7
              Why all the panic? It's a body fluid vector disease that doesn't leave it's victims wandering around to infect others. The risk is effectively zero. It spread like crazy over there because people don't understand what not to do. Here there will be proper isolation procedures nobody's going to get infected.

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              • #8
                Really? No one is panicking. Just looking at historical facts. 1918 influenza. SARS. TB. Whooping cough. Measles.
                Now go home and get your shine box!

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                • #9
                  It's very unlikely that Ebola will become widespread problem, in the United States (or any other developed nation with a readily accessible and properly equipped health system and epidemiologists) like it has in Africa whether it arrives here on our terms, or through an Infected Traveler.


                  Even taking the susceptibility to human error into consideration, Its even less likely that transporting an infected patient here, under BSL-4 protocol will pose any public health risk. These facilities (Emory, Ft. Dietrich, etc ) have cared for patients infected with, or suspected to be infected with other just as highly infectious and contagious pathogens (such as its close relative, Marburg Virus), for over 70 years. Thats cases that we know about. (Ebola could actually be safely contained within a standard hospital Isolation suite If strict I.D. protocol was properly and methodically adhered too).


                  Comparing TB, SARS, etc.- which is an airborne pathogen too Ebola, which is not- is like comparing apples too oranges.
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                  • #10
                    Vista,

                    I was not comparing it. You failed to read and get the point. The US has a dismal record of quarantine, and enforcing vaccination.
                    Since you have now decided to stalk my posts, go for it.

                    You need to grow up.
                    Now go home and get your shine box!

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                    • #11
                      This is going to be one of those really REALLY educational threads and look forward to reading the whole thing.

                      I lean toward those that are cynical about organizations messing something up that has zero room for error.

                      On the other hand, knowing ArmyVet is a doctor that's worked in austere environments, I put a lot of weight on her opinions in this matter. Would be interested in anything else you have to add, ArmyVet.

                      I've also spent many hours in Reston over the years and the topic hits a little close to home.

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                      • #12
                        Emma,

                        Many of us have also worked/trained/lived in those environments too!
                        Now go home and get your shine box!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by CCCSD View Post
                          Emma,

                          Many of us have also worked/trained/lived in those environments too!
                          Roger, good point, CCCSD. In fact so have I. It's my sense that a person trained as a doctor would be most familiar with the very details we're talking about.

                          In fact let's drag ArmyVet more into this debate. AV, talk to us some more.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by EmmaPeel View Post
                            Roger, good point, CCCSD. In fact so have I. It's my sense that a person trained as a doctor would be most familiar with the very details we're talking about.

                            In fact let's drag ArmyVet more into this debate. AV, talk to us some more.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Vista View Post
                              It's very unlikely that Ebola will become widespread problem, in the United States (or any other developed nation with a readily accessible and properly equipped health system and epidemiologists) like it has in Africa whether it arrives here on our terms, or through an Infected Traveler.


                              Even taking the susceptibility to human error into consideration, Its even less likely that transporting an infected patient here, under BSL-4 protocol will pose any public health risk. These facilities (Emory, Ft. Dietrich, etc ) have cared for patients infected with, or suspected to be infected with other just as highly infectious and contagious pathogens (such as its close relative, Marburg Virus), for over 70 years. Thats cases that we know about. (Ebola could actually be safely contained within a standard hospital Isolation suite If strict I.D. protocol was properly and methodically adhered too).


                              Comparing TB, SARS, etc.- which is an airborne pathogen too Ebola, which is not- is like comparing apples too oranges.
                              Roger that. Hmm? Okay....

                              [QUOTE](Ebola could actually be safely contained within a standard hospital Isolation suite If strict I.D. protocol was properly and methodically adhered too). [/QUOTE]

                              ....which can be, and has been done successfully, in the location in Africa where they became infected. So, why the need to bring them here?

                              Uh, because they're white, caring, loving NGO American volunteers who deserve better than the rest of the 'darker' people?

                              No? .......

                              Why the NEED to bring them here? If it's as simple as you say (then by definition) there is no NEED to bring them here and risk anything on the homeland.

                              So, why the NEED to bring them here?
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