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  • RCKoutWurGLKout
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    Sucks for the cops...Had a similar situation in my FT phase. We had more room to react as we were outside on a deck and the taser use allowed us to disarm the subject without having to go lethal force.

    Don't know how the initial call came out in the video, but ours was suicidal subject who held the knife to himself. Only thing we did differently was our scene/interaction with the subject was a lot calmer. Not MMQB'ing, just pointing out the difference.

    I hate responding to suicide threats...

    Glad the deceased's loved ones cared so much about his well-being that instead of disarming the man themselves they recorded the police interaction so that they could possibly get a payout.

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  • lakings10
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    Good job by the Deputies. My only thing is at the end it seemed like he was the only one engaging the suspect, (Officer safety issue) The other Deputies might have been dealing with keeping the family away.


    Edit: Just re watched the vid. SGT was right there.
    Last edited by lakings10; 06-09-2014, 12:41 AM.

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  • lpstopper
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    suicide by cop. Guy knew he wanted to die and didnt have the balls to do it himself. Im sorry that our brother had to be the one to do it and PHUK that guys family for suing.

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  • LINY
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    Originally posted by Miller11x View Post
    Don't read the comments....
    Some of the comments make sense.

    So you gotta ask yourself who was taping and why. It certainly wasn't the COPs. It appears to me that the COPs were set up for failure in a no-win situation. Intervene and be accused of causing the deadly force situation, or don't intervene and be accused of failing to act and allowing this guy to harm himself or potentially others. Let's tape it, and either way file a wrongful death lawsuit and make the deep pockets of the municipality pay.

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  • SJay.SD
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    Originally posted by Miller11x View Post
    Don't read the comments....
    Too late, reminds me how many idiots are out there.

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  • VA Dutch
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    That was truly a textbook "no win" situation.

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  • ArmyVet
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    Originally posted by Tmg View Post
    IMO it was a good shoot.

    On a side note, Whose camera was recording this? Kinda looks like the family set the camera up in hopes they can catch the Police using force and sue.
    That's exactly what happened. The family placed the camera shortly before deputies arrived. Now they are filing a wrongful death suit. In addition, they failed to release the video during the investigation of the shooting and waited until it was concluded to be a justified shooting.

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  • sapper324
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    Originally posted by Tmg View Post
    IMO it was a good shoot.

    On a side note, Whose camera was recording this? Kinda looks like the family set the camera up in hopes they can catch the Police using force and sue.
    That was my first thought - who is recording this?

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    IMO it was a good shoot.

    On a side note, Whose camera was recording this? Kinda looks like the family set the camera up in hopes they can catch the Police using force and sue.

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  • dontknowwhy
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    Originally posted by Long Relief View Post
    Meh, what happened is what happened. I wonder why clearing the house of all others and setting up a perimeter and handling it like a barricaded subject wasn't done?

    If you can get negotiators and SWAT guys there the chances go down that you are going to have to kill the guy.
    Couldn't be done here. Two officers on shift, SWAT team 1-2 hours away after a mutual aid request is put out...

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  • allen_gamble
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    Originally posted by TheTick
    I'm not sure what would make us (SWAT) gas him inside the bathroom. We use gas for area denial inside a structure and then to bring them out. In this case, I believe it was best to keep him contained in the bathroom.

    LL shotgun inside a house=
    Hmm.. yeah close range.

    Maybe just evacuate the house and tell them to return the next morning and see if he's in a better mood?

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  • Long Relief
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    Meh, what happened is what happened. I wonder why clearing the house of all others and setting up a perimeter and handling it like a barricaded subject wasn't done?

    If you can get negotiators and SWAT guys there the chances go down that you are going to have to kill the guy.

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  • allen_gamble
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    That's tough. I think they did about as well as a patrol officer could do.

    The only other options I see would be LL Shotgun, which may have still had little to no effect. Or call SWAT. Perhaps tear gas and flashbangs could have disoriented him enough to get the knife away from him, but even that is "iffy".

    I do realize that SWAT and LL Shotgun may not have been available to them.

    I commend the officers for their efforts. You can absolutely see the immediate pain the officer feels when he had to shoot him. That's a sh*tty, sh*tty night! Glad no officers were hurt.

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  • Miller11x
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    Don't read the comments....

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  • cajunguy
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    Shoulda had my glasses on when I watched it, I guess. I totally missed that.

    How do you say "tunnel vision"? My focus was on the officer that ended up taking the shots.

    My bad. (And my apologies to the Sergeant.)

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