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  • Chief In Trouble For Ignoring BS Comment/Question

    Here's the news article:
    Chief in Trouble

    This struck me as funny: The 15-year-old's question to Fantino(TPS Chief) was,"Why should you expect us to respect you when you don't respect us black kids?"
    bwaaaaahahahaha!!!
    Fantino later said in an interview that he refused to answer because the question was a stereotype of cops, and because it was more of a statement than a question.

    "I felt we weren't worth getting a response," said 22-year-old Nicole Morrison
    In other words the QUESTION was not worthy of a response, and very well could have been formulated more tactfully.

    It may be true that police don't respect 'kids', because they are kids, no they don't treat kids like adults because they are not. The same could be said of parents, and many others. I see nothing wrong with police giving attention to kids - black, white, blue, green or otherwise. I just don't see this as a black issue, I see it more as an issue of growing up, kids need guidance, especially these days. That isn't disrespect, It's a concern for kids.

    "Fantino, then a staff inspector, ignited a firestorm in the community in 1989, when he released figures showing that in the Jane and Finch neighbourhood, where 6 per cent of the population was black, blacks accounted for 82 per cent of the robberies and muggings and about half of all drug offences."

    I wonder, was this a lie? What's the problem with the truth these days...I wonder, does the black community as a WHOLE (Not just the few mouthy ones) oppose being protected??? All I see these statistics doing aside from upsetting a few cry-babies is identifying problems, So as to know where and who needs help.

    Sooo, What do you all think:
    Of Fantino Ignoring the BS & biased question?
    Of Fantino releasing the 'firestorm report'?
    Of the girl asking the question?

    It was a statement more than a question as, Fantino pointed out. To properly answer the question you would first need to acknowledge that ALL police officers are racist and hate particularily 'black' youth.

    Chandelle Dickenson and her friends don't trust the police. But they had come to listen.
    Really? Sounds like they came to attack. Maybe it's just me. I would think that the five homocides in her neighborhood last year would be more of a concern.

    [ 01-08-2003, 03:19 PM: Message edited by: Oink ]
    All of god's creatures are entitled to live without fear of "gun violence" except for you and your family. - <a href="http://www.handguncontrolinc.org/selfdefense_quiz.htm" target="_blank">Source</a>

  • #2
    The town hall meetings follow a controversy-raising series in the Star on race and crime that used evidence gleaned from police data to show that police treat blacks more harshly than whites in certain situations.

    That's all you need to know right there. The media stirring up sh*t then blaming the cops.
    On the wings of a dove
    Let's roll for justice
    Let's roll for truth
    Let's not let our children grow up
    Fearful in their youth -- Neil Young

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    • #3
      On blueline.ca they are talking about that series of articles, They are saying that The Toronto Star is planning on changing it's design and they are stirring up trouble to increase sales. [Eek!]
      All of god's creatures are entitled to live without fear of "gun violence" except for you and your family. - <a href="http://www.handguncontrolinc.org/selfdefense_quiz.htm" target="_blank">Source</a>

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      • #4
        quote:
        Why should you expect us to respect you when you don't respect us black kids?"
        He should have answered the question.

        Something to the effect that he doesn't want their respect, just common courtesy. Respect is earned, not freely given.
        "Trust me. I'm from the government, I'm here to help."

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        • #5
          The star made up a bunch of crap based on TPS data. Statistics can be manipulated. According to the star the Chief and officers are all racist... [Eek!]
          The TPS does not keep racial data. Apparently the way to avoid 'racial profiling' is by keeping data on ethnicity of everyone stopped, arrested, questioned, etc. Which anyone with half a brain knows is just more fuel for the media, not to mention is itself racial profiling! I can't believe ppl actually buy into this crap! They must be saying that the police 'frame' black ppl... With all the scumbags out there I can't imagine there's any need to frame anybody.
          I read the star interview with Fantino, A person would have to be on some heavy drugs to believe the star... [Eek!]
          We live in a very crazy world.
          bad is good, good is bad....
          All of god's creatures are entitled to live without fear of "gun violence" except for you and your family. - <a href="http://www.handguncontrolinc.org/selfdefense_quiz.htm" target="_blank">Source</a>

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          • #6
            He could have said it was not an issue of respect from either side, but a question of attitudes, ideals, and influences on both sides. Race is usually not the issue, but a breakdown of communications and interactions is.

            Every time I get accused of being a racist, I simply tell them the truth; "The problem is not what color you are; the problem is YOU!"

            Sometimes people who make those idiotic remarks remind me of this old hound dog; sitting and howling, because he was sitting on a thorn, and didn't have the sense to get up and move off of it! Or like my own siblings: They have the ability to point their finger at others and run their mouths, just to draw attention away from their pitfalls!
            Never make a drummer mad- we beat things for a living!

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            • #7
              This is great! The Toronto Police Association has filed a class action suit against the Toronto Star seeking $2.2 billion for defamation of police officers of the TPS.

              "Following the publishing of the series, Danson said the Toronto police board of directors retained a team of experts from Ontario, British Columbia and the United States to study the Star's methodology.

              "This team of experts confirmed the instincts of the police, namely that the Toronto Star's analysis is seriously flawed and unfair," he said."


              This is good!

              Star Article

              [ 01-17-2003, 11:23 PM: Message edited by: Oink ]
              All of god's creatures are entitled to live without fear of "gun violence" except for you and your family. - <a href="http://www.handguncontrolinc.org/selfdefense_quiz.htm" target="_blank">Source</a>

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              • #8
                WHOO HOO! Good for them. It's about time somebody holds the media accountable for what they spew. Freedom of the press just means that you can publish what you want. It doesn't mean that there can't be repurcussions from it [Wink]
                On the wings of a dove
                Let's roll for justice
                Let's roll for truth
                Let's not let our children grow up
                Fearful in their youth -- Neil Young

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