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  • Seventy2002
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    "not subject to earthly laws"

    "A self-styled witch who says she is not subject to earthly laws was whisked off to another world today when a judge jailed her for two months for dragging a traffic cop by the arm for 200m in her car."

    Read more: http://www.news.com.au/national/self...#ixzz1QJEtBL5E

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  • jjmacnab
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    Sovereign dies in fight with police.


    Page officer kills man in DV incident


    TODD GLASENAPP and LARRY HENDRICKS Arizona Daily Sun | Posted: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 5:20 am | (2) Comments

    Police and emergency personnel are on the scene of Sunday's officer-involved shooting that left Page businessman William Foust dead. (Courtesy photo).

    PAGE -- A police officer responding to a domestic violence call shot and killed a well-known Page businessman during a fight Sunday night.

    The shooting is believed to be the first officer-involved shooting in Page's 54-year history.

    According to information from the Coconino County Sheriff's Office, William Foust, 50, of Page, was pronounced dead at the Page hospital a short time after the shooting. The officer involved, Shawn Wilson, who has five years on the force, has been placed on administrative leave pending the outcome of a criminal and an administrative investigation into the shooting.

    The shooting happened at 6:16 p.m. on the 800 block of Vista Avenue at B & T Marine, owned by Foust. At about 6 p.m., Page police received a 911 call of a domestic violence incident happening at the business.

    Before Wilson arrived, the suspect, Foust, had fled the area. While the officer was talking with the female victim, Foust returned and engaged in a heated argument with the woman.

    According to the sheriff's office, Foust was "upset, loud and confrontational with the officer."

    Wilson and Foust went outside the business and were soon involved in a physical altercation. Foust, according to the sheriff's office, attempted to gain control of the officer's Taser.

    "The officer discharged his service weapon, striking Foust," stated a press release issued by the sheriff's office.

    According to information from the police department, Wilson received minor injuries from a physical confrontation prior to the shooting.

    Wilson and a second officer who arrived on the scene attempted to save Foust's life while the Page Fire Department responded with medics.

    Page police Capt. Ray Varner said that Wilson is on paid administrative leave.

    Police Chief Charlie Dennis said during a Monday afternoon press conference that he requested the Coconino County Sheriff's Office to conduct the criminal investigation. Assisting the sheriff's office is a Northern Arizona Officer-Involved Shooting Investigation Team led by Lt. Tim Cornelius of the Sheriff's Office.

    Dennis said he also contacted Robert Halliday, director of the Arizona Department of Public Safety, and requested investigators from his agency to conduct the internal investigation, and Halliday agreed.

    Upon completion of the sheriff's office investigation, the case will be turned over to the Coconino County Attorney's Office for review to determine if criminal charges apply in the case.

    PRIOR CONTEMPT ARREST

    Foust, who owned B & T Marine with wife Toni, was jailed in December after filing sovereign citizenship status regarding a court matter in Kanab, Utah. Foust was contesting a traffic ticket received July 1 for speeding in Kane County, Utah, when he refused to acknowledge authority in the courtroom.

    Foust had made a slew of filings, including an affidavit of political status, Uniform Commercial Code financing statement, a property list, power of attorney, commercial security agreement, indemnity bond, hold harmless and indemnity agreement, non-negotiable security agreement, legal notice and demand definitions, along with a motion to dismiss.

    He also refused to provide his birth date to the court, failed to appear and was charged with contempt. His fine for a traffic violation increased from $115 to $1,052. The contempt fine was later reduced to $250.

    Page, founded in 1957 by builders of Glen Canyon Dam, has experienced only a few homicides. A night clerk of a motel one block from B & T Marine was killed in 1995, and a transient was beaten to death at Page City Park in February 2008. In 1998, a 40-year-old man died of injuries sustained in a bar fight, with the charge reduced to manslaughter. The city also recorded a murder in 1983, also from a bar fight.

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  • RLRay
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    This thread started out to be one that some did not want to respond too. Now it is 5 pages long. Very interesting reading.

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  • jjmacnab
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    Montana forest camp is focus of militia leader manhunt
    Alaska Dispatch | Jun 15, 2011

    Montana sheriff's deputies have focused their search for militia members on a remote forest camp, the Associated Press reports. Missoula County Undersheriff Mike Dominick told The AP that a tip led deputies to the camp in the forested mountains west of Lolo in northwestern Montana. Officers had the camp under surveillance but didn't know if the person spotted there is fugitive David Burgert. Burgert, who faces attempted homicide after allegedly firing shots at deputies over the weekend, is known to be involved with the founder of the Alaska Peacemaker's Militia, Francis Schaeffer Cox.

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  • Unistat
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    Originally posted by jjmacnab View Post
    There are nine defendants, and the youngest, "Jr" was 19 at the time of the original arrests.

    The case is plugging away in federal court. In February, 2011, the DOJ filed a second superceding indictment, the jury trial is currently for 9/13/2011, and the US has asked for a competency hearing for one of the defendants (Jacob Ward.)

    Here's a copy of the current indictment, if you're interested.

    http://redcrayons.net/hutaree293.pdf
    Thanks.

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  • AZLawDawg
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    Originally posted by jjmacnab View Post
    There are nine defendants, and the youngest, "Jr" was 19 at the time of the original arrests.

    The case is plugging away in federal court. In February, 2011, the DOJ filed a second superceding indictment, the jury trial is currently for 9/13/2011, and the US has asked for a competency hearing for one of the defendants (Jacob Ward.)

    Here's a copy of the current indictment, if you're interested.

    http://redcrayons.net/hutaree293.pdf
    I was wondering about them myself, thanks for the update.

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  • jjmacnab
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    Originally posted by Unistat View Post
    Hey JJ, any info on what's going on with the Hutaree? The last I heard is that they were arrested, but nothing about a trial or verdict. I think there was a minor involved too. Just curious as they are from my neck of the woods.
    There are nine defendants, and the youngest, "Jr" was 19 at the time of the original arrests.

    The case is plugging away in federal court. In February, 2011, the DOJ filed a second superceding indictment, the jury trial is currently for 9/13/2011, and the US has asked for a competency hearing for one of the defendants (Jacob Ward.)

    Here's a copy of the current indictment, if you're interested.

    http://redcrayons.net/hutaree293.pdf

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  • Unistat
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    Hey JJ, any info on what's going on with the Hutaree? The last I heard is that they were arrested, but nothing about a trial or verdict. I think there was a minor involved too. Just curious as they are from my neck of the woods.

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  • jjmacnab
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    Manhunt for militia member who fired shots at officers
    Alaska Dispatch | Jun 13, 2011

    A manhunt was under way Monday in a remote area near the Idaho-Montana border for an antigovernment militia leader who allegedly fired shots at pursuing deputies a day earlier. David Burgert, who was recently released from federal prison for involvement in a plot to assassinate police and elected officials, was being hunted by sheriff's deputies from two western Montana counties. "This a very dangerous person," said Missoula County Undersheriff Mike Dominick to the Billings Gazette. "I believe he wouldn't hesitate to shoot at anyone or kidnap somebody to get their rigs." Burgert is known to be involved with Francis Schaeffer Cox, the founder of the Alaska Peacemaker's Militia.

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  • Taylor13
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    Yeah I get that a lot. =)

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  • JJHunsacker
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    Originally posted by Taylor13 View Post
    You are either channeling James Cagney or Raymond Chandler. Either way, pretty cool thing to see from a teenager.

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  • LINY
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    Originally posted by jjmacnab View Post
    A rational person would call an attorney or arrange a payment plan with the IRS, but people aren't always rational when it comes to handling emotional crises.
    This is exactly what makes it like every other cult. It takes people when they are at their most vulnerable moments.

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  • merlin436
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    Originally posted by jjmacnab View Post
    I think it's why so many posters here took offense that I published my article in the SPLC magazine. They have some sympathy for sovereign politics and ideals, they just don't stomach the absurd and violent sovereign methodology.

    Not me. I can't really say I know enough about the ins and outs of the sovereign movement's politics and ideals to have much of a honest opinion on them...sympathetic or not.


    Concerning the SPLC, I've seen their spokespeople numerous times on TV and I've read multiple copies of their "Intelligence Report". It's pretty clear to me from watching and reading what they produce that they're largely left-wing propagandists.

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  • jjmacnab
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    'Sovereign' citizen charged with filing false documents
    By Jenny Arnold
    Published: Saturday, June 11, 2011 at 3:15 a.m.
    A woman claiming to be part of the sovereign citizen movement has been charged with filing fraudulent documents against local law enforcement and court officials at the Spartanburg Clerk of Court office.
    Melody Denise Rose, 41, of 290 Tibbs Drive, has been charged by the Spartanburg County Sheriff’s Office with two counts of impersonating an official by filing false documents, Master Deputy Tony Ivey said.
    Rose identifies herself as a sovereign citizen, Ivey said. On May 5 and June 2, she filed liens against the finances and property of two magistrate judges, the sheriff’s office and court officials.
    The documents were identified as affidavits, and all pages, front and back, were marked with a 3-cent stamp with her name signed over it in gold ink, an incident report said.
    Sovereign citizens are anti-government extremists who believe that even though they physically reside in the United States, they are separate or “sovereign” from the United States, according to the FBI.
    As a result, they believe they don’t have to answer to any government authority, including courts, taxing entities, motor vehicle departments or law enforcement.
    Many sovereign citizens don’t pay their taxes. They hold illegal courts that issue warrants for judges and police officers, and clog up the court system with frivolous lawsuits and liens against public officials to harass them. They also might use fake money orders, personal checks and other documents at government agencies, banks and businesses, according to the FBI.
    “It’s paper terrorism, if you will,” Ivey said. “It has gained momentum in the past couple of years.”
    Ivey said Rose did not identify herself as part of any organized group.
    He said that local law enforcement have received regular updates about the sovereign citizen movement from the FBI, and this is the first arrest the sheriff’s office has made involving the movement.
    Rose was arrested Thursday and released from the Spartanburg County Detention Center later that day on a $6,000 bond.

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  • GangGreen712
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    Originally posted by ImperialCop
    If anarchists are left wing then aren’t sovereign citizens, too?
    One of the things that separates them is their end vision of society. Anarchists tend to advocate a socialist communal society where everyone works for the greater good, basically removing the middleman ("temporary" dictatorship) from Marx's vision and going directly from revolution to utopia. Sovereigns advocate an ultra libertarian society of "Everyone mind your own business." No government, and everyone working for their own good which, in their mind, is ultimately good for society.

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